The Ram Sethu Issue: Some Racist and Xenophobic Tamils Do Not Represent all of South India

"genocidal propaganda" ?? What???

"genocidal propaganda"? Hmmm?
Interesting!

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* Some comments in the article are fine..But some are over dose like bringing LTTE into this picture.

Some pretty hard hitting there. One thing that I agree, whole heartedly, is the imbecile mentality that most things south is Madrasi. For many Indians, despite the global appeal of Bangalore and Hyderabad, there is not much to south sans Chennai. Look at the friggin stereotype in Bollywood movies.

Some dictionary help:

Genocide = the deliberate and systematic destruction of a racial, political, ethnic, religious or cultural group.

Dravidian nationalists, while claiming victimhood from these groups, seek the destruction of the same:

1. Brahmins.

2. India's white skinned people.

3. Jews, including Indian ones. Some of them even express antisemitic sentiments and link them with antiHindu sentiments.

Do read Dravidian nationalist literature like the Dalit Voice magazine for a taste of the desire for genocide of the above groups.

This magazine has repeatedly carried articles which praised Adolf Hitler and his methods, calling him a patriot and saying that his negative perception worldwide has been the result of a systematic campaign by Jews, Hindus and what not!

Wow, do you have online links?

www.dalitvoice.org

Muthu,

My *ss doesnt have a door :)

Sen,

LTTE cannot be divorced from the picture for it was influenced by the "Self respect movement" launched by the Dravidian nationalists. The final goal of the Dravidian nationalist movement is to establish a separate Tamil country that constitutes Tamil Nadu and other south Indian states along with the northern and eastern parts of Sri Lanka, referred to as Greater Eelam. LTTE's campaign of terror is a part of this movement.

Anupallavi,

I agree. It is really sad that this stereotype exists. Doesnt help matters at all. All four southern states are quite different and all are NOT Madrasis.

Incidentally, the political rhetoric is apparently good for business, given the scale of investments in Tamil Nadu, the latest is the Moser Baer Rs. 2000 cr (approx $500 million) plant in the state

See these:

1. Hitler not worst villain of 20th century as painted by zionists by IQBAL AHMED SHARIFF

2. The Brighter Side of Hitler by Iqbal Ahmed Shariff

An excerpt from one of those articles:

His autobiography is a wonderful piece of philosophical treatise. (1971, pp. 694, Houghton Mifflin Co., Boston, USA).
REVOLUTIONARIES MUST READ IT

If Hitler had become a politician and leader, he would have been hailed as a philosopher and great writer in the cause of West.

Every revolutionary must read this book and learn useful lessons.

The enemies of Germany, particularly America and the Jews, have selectively altered some sentences and portions to make Hitler a monster and the most hated person. He is projected as anti-Jew and father of anti-Semitism. But there are no historical evidences to prove this charge.

A rather delicious letter to the editor:

Parvez Khan, Bahnhofvorplatz-2a, 50667-Koln, Germany: I read Nitish Bharradwaj's hate-filled Letter in the truth-telling Dalit Voice (July 16, 2007, p 14). I have just finished its translation into German and I intend to send it to all the German newspapers in Germany and Switzerland in the print and email format both. The purpose is to show it to the rest of the world that the Hindus are all zionists, fascists and evil and there is no equality between different races in "Fascist India" and "Pappadum India". India is becoming a Hindu terrorist state and it has been carrying out an ethnic genocide of the Dalits since many thousands years. It has also carried out the genocide of Muslims, Sikhs, Christians and Budhists with impunity. I intend to send your "Gandhi nonsense" which appeared in the DV to all prominent newspapers in Switzerland and Germany, where I live. Switzerland is a trilingual country and along with German, they also speak French and Italian. I will also translate it into French and Italian and would send it to their respective media in Switzerland also. I am determined to expose the "Fascist Hindus" all over the world. We have already given a tarnished image to M.K. Gandhi, who, among the Africans, is now called, Ku Klux Gandhi and also "Fascist Gandhi" in Germany. We have also copied the article from DV regarding "Gandhi prostitutes" in Holland and we sent it to nearly every Dutch newspaper and freelance journalist in Holland. We are also spreading the propaganda that the Hindus drink cow's urine, which is called, "Gandhi cola".

atlantean... so what we're saying here is that mine is a marriage made in Dravidian Nationalist hell? (south indian brahmin marries jew and produces a hinjew?) I guess I won't get a pass for having a degree in dravidian languages, eh?

what a mess.

SS

Aren't u married to a Kannadiga Brahmin? Atlantean refers to the Dravidan movement (Tamil Nadu)....

rgds

yes, I am, and yes, I know... but wouldn't they not like him too?

Ram sethu is truly irrelevant to south india

in south people wont worship ram they worship Muruga. even murugan has mythological stories like lord ram, IN TAMILNADU NO ONE CAN TOUCH MURUGAN. no body can question his exsistence

Please go ahead and prove it then, but not in this article space as that would be somewhat irrelevant.

Smallsquirrel,

Hinjew... LOL!

As I said in the article, most people in south India dont heed the call for a separate Dravidian nation and so, the Dravidian nationalist movement doesnt have much support outside Tamil Nadu. Even in Tamil Nadu, there are many who dont support it.

Hinjews are welcome. They will be safe :)

Soman,

You say Ram is really irrelevant in South India as south Indians worship Murugan instead of Ram. This is exactly what I wanted to point out in my article. It is not south Indians but TAMILS who worship Murugan. Being from Andhra Pradesh, I can state that atleast in Andhra Pradesh, Murugan is a nonentity

South India, Madrasi and Tamil Nadu are not synonymous terms. Journalists and "intellectuals" sitting in Delhi often fail to make this distinction. That there is a Aryan-Dravidian cultural distinction itself is a myth. There's a Punjabi, Gujarati and Bengali culture, there's a Telugu culture and Tamil culture. Punjabi, Gujarati and Bengali culture are vastly different. So are Tamil and Telugu culture. Cultural differences in India are based on ethnicity, not skin colour. Unfortunately, that is what the Dravidian nationalists and the Delhi school want us to believe.

The confusion of the terms South Indian, Tamilian, Dravidian and Madrasi is similar to the use of "men of South Asian origin" as a blanket term (esp. in the British media) for people coming from India, Bangladesh, Pakistan and Sri Lanka. It does not convey the vast cultural differences between people from these countries.

It is really sad and unfortunate that an artifical racial distinction that was conceived and propagated by British academics to justify colonial rule still persists in Indian academia and consciousness even after 60 years of independance.

Hmmm...

I went to the Dalit site - there is more to the world than I realized...

Ruvy, that is thankfully a miniscule minority and will likely remain so

Your article is very harsh and racist

The contents of dalit.org are being published and propagated in Abu Dhabi and malaysia by some muslim organisations with the name `O Hindus awake' as a tool to convert them to Islam.

I have seen a booklet in Malaysia with a fake writer claiming to be a Research Scholar in some non existent University in B still using name Dr Chaturvedi(though he says still a student of Ph D).

In Abu Dhabi it gives a fake adress of Al Ain city and a misprinted telephone number.

I am giving here 15 points to prove that Modern Hinduism is of South Indian orgin and Aryan invasion is a mere ploy to divide n rule and to `demonise Brahmins' of India who always motivated Indians to oppose foreign invaders on intellectual platform.

1.Hindus Devas Ram Krishna Vinsnu are black in color curly hair like typical south India.
2. All Devis look like typical South Indian women.
3.Vedas describe Indian rivers, Indian flaura and fauna not of any foreign country
4. Conch shell(Shanks) used in Hindu worship is found in south India and not in North.
5. Sandal used in worship found in South India and not in North.
6. Roli (Kumkum) produced in South India and not in North.
6. Supari, etc all south Indian and not North.
8. Rice (South India) used in prayers not wheat produced in south.
9. Coconut produced in South India and not in North.
10. Sanskrit has alphabet of 53 letter similar in all Indian languages including Tamil while European languages have only 24-26
11. English have only 400 words common with Sanskrit, Tamil have more then 4000.
12. `Arya' in Sanskrit means a noble person who does his/her duty professionally and smartly irrespective of cast creed color or way of worship and never a race?
13. All rivers described in Vedas are Indian rivers. If they were foreinegers they might have described foreign rivers as Muslim invaders always described `zam xam ka Paani'
14. All Mountains described in vedic Literature are Indian. If they were foreigners they might have described foreign mountains.
15. All atronomical descriptions match with star positions on India
16. All trees, plants medicines etc described are of Indian origin

Still do you believe the lie of Aryans invasion on India?

Lord Rama won't be pleased by this:TN bus torched in Bangalore, 2 killed

Man Singh - All Devis look like typical South Indian women.

LOL!!! Good to know. Say them I said hi when next you meet them.

Atlantean - re: dalit voice...you live and learn every day, huh? Particularly funny was the About Us section.

Kumari Kandam is a Myth but flying monkeys building bridges not ? nice
I have been to dalitvoice.org, a very good website with very nice interpretations,instead of attacking them can you prove whatever they say is wrong ?

Notice how SS always stresses on the fact the married a BRAHMIN,like their shit smells different.What a bigot

she*

Atlantean - dalits are not the first admirers of Hitler.Your icon and ultra -right wing hindutvaist BAL Thackeray is an ardent fan too

oh for god sakes kela.... give it a fucking rest. that was brought up for a reason, and you know i do not give 2 shits about caste....

but go ahead... prove I am a bigot....

ok if you insist :)

Hehe...so what have you all to say about http://www.hinduunity.com/

The people who workship Lord Shiva not commotting any violence activities.
The people who workship Lord Muruga not committing any violence activities.
The people who workship Ammans not commiting any violence activities.
Then why the Ram Sevaks? Particularly promoted by Useless VHP and BJP fools?

Amrita,

Yeah! DV even claims that it was the first newspaper in the world to have broken the "news" that the 9/11 attacks were planned and executed by Jews! You get to know a lot of things from DV :)

Atlantean & all,
Read the old Valmiki's Ramayana in sanskrit, all you blessed people will stop your mouths. It will depict Rama in full glory "eating horse meat and drinking alcohol". It was Valmiki who gave us Ramayan and those who have not read the Valmiki's original script should not speak about him and the aryan culture.

Nice paper tigers around here! Hooah!

north indians are very racist too. in fact, the RSS mouthpiece, Organiser, used to make fun of dark south indians. in fact, many north indians think they are superior to south indians because they are lighter-skinned and are closer to europeans. it takes two to tango, you know.

I am a telugu and I am proud to be a dravidian.

we stand firmly behind our tamilians brothers in opposing the northern folks language imposition.

avestan(persian) is 90% sanskrit
old latin/greek share thousands of root words with sanskrit.

dravidian languages did not originate from sanskrit.