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Senator Harry Reid's Offensive Remarks About Jobless Men

March 07, 2010
Sumanth

Millions of people lost their jobs in this recession. Imagine, as soon as a manager gives a pink slip, he calls 911 and informs police that he has just sacked a male employee and he is afraid that, " this jerk will go to his home and beat up his wife".

Recently, Senator Harry Reid termed unemployed men as "abusive". This kind of rhetoric and stereotyping causes harm not only to unemployed men, but also to the entire society.

“I met with some people, while I was home, dealing with domestic abuse,” Reid said. “It has gotten out of hand. Why? Men don't have jobs. Women don't have jobs either, but women aren’t abusive, most of the time. Men, when they're out of work, tend to become abusive. Our domestic crisis shelters in Nevada are jammed; that’s the way it is all over the country.”

Abusegate has become a full blown scandal now with Senator Reid's outbursts.

Senator Reid is down in the polls in his home state of Nevada. Former Senator Fred Thompson of Tennessee tweeted,

“Jobless men = domestic abuse. Is he saying we should be worried about Mrs. Reid after the November elections?”

 

Harry Reid’s spokesman isn’t laughing at Fred Thompson’s Wednesday tweet — musing whether the majority leader would beat his wife if he loses reelection in November — calling the comment “despicable” and invoking Reid’s own violence-plagued childhood.

It is certain that in this tweeter age, people have no patience to tolerate such outbursts anymore and get even within hours. The situation was different 20 years back.

Ifeminists reports,

During the Senate hearings held on December 11, 1990 to probe the problem of violence against women. Senator Joe Biden (now Vice President of US) went on to say:

"In my house, being raised with a sister and three brothers, there was an absolute - it was a nuclear sanction, if under any circumstances, for any reason, no matter how justified, even self-defense - if you ever touched your sister, not figuratively, literally. My sister, who is my best friend, my campaign manager, my confidante, grew up with absolute impunity in our household."

"And I have the bruises to prove it."(laughter)

"I mean that sincerely. I am not exaggerating when I say that."(laughter)

One should not create Government policies in democratic countries out of anger, guilt or chivalry.

Lets talk science.

Many studies have shown that mutual domestic violence is the most prevalent form of domestic violence and in one-sided domestic violence, the women initiate more domestic violence than males.

Professors Murray A. Straus (Family Research Laboratory, University of New Hampshire, Durham) is a world renowned expert in the subject of intimate partner violence and here is peer reviewed research from him.

http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2/ID41-PR41-Dominance-symmetry-In-Press-07.pdf

The study investigated the widely held beliefs that physical violence against partners (PV) in marital, cohabiting, and dating relationships is almost entirely perpetrated by men, and that the major risk factor for PV is male dominance in the relationship. The empirical data on these issues were provided by 13,601 university students in 32 nations who participated in the International Dating Violence Study. The results in the first part of this paper show that almost one-third of the female as well as male students physically assaulted a dating partner in the previous 12 months, and that the most frequent pattern was bidirectional, i.e., both were violent, followed by “female-only” violence. Violence by only the male partner was the least frequent pattern according to both male and female participants.

http://www.csulb.edu/~mfiebert/assault.htm

The bibliography at Department of Psychology, California State University examines 271 scholarly investigations: 211 empirical studies and 60 reviews and/or analyses, which demonstrate that women are as physically aggressive, or more aggressive, than men in their relationships with their spouses or male partners. The aggregate sample size in the reviewed studies exceeds 365,000.

 

It is to be noted that if violence spirals out of control and increases in intensity, the female may often end up with severe injuries or the male may commit suicide.

Everyone wants a peaceful life. There is no scientific study, which states that most men do not want peace in their lives. The policies to create more peaceful homes need to be scientific, holistic and inclusive. Ideologues should not be drafting the state policies.

The law makers should educate themselves in stead of implementing policies in anger, frustration, guilt or chivalry.

 

Sumanth is a vocal social activist, who loves to organise protests, create leaders and helps them create NGOs for different social causes. He is a founding member of NGO SIF.
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Senator Harry Reid's Offensive Remarks About Jobless Men

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#1
smallsquirrel
March 7, 2010
01:48 PM

we can all find studies to suit our needs, sumanth.

here is one I found:

"Men who abuse alcohol and drugs tend to batter their wives and girlfriends more often than others, according to two recent studies in the New England Journal of Medicine. One study at eight emergency departments around the country looked at 915 injured women, including 256 hurt by husbands or male partners. The women were asked about the habits and lives of the men.

The first study found more than three times the risk of domestic violence when husbands or male partners abuse alcohol or drugs, go in and out of jobs, or break up with the women. They also found that perpetrators of violence against women tend to be former or estranged husbands or ex-boyfriends. The study found that the risk of being injured from a domestic violence incident was:

+3.6 times higher if the male partner abused alcohol;

+3.5 times greater if he used illegal drugs;

+3.1 times higher if he didn’t have a steady job;

The researchers also found that women involved with men who were high school dropouts were 2.5 times more likely to be the victims of domestic violence."

www.caepv.org/membercenter/files/BatteringLinkedtoSA.doc

also this:
"An extensive 2004 report by the National Institute of Justice found that the rate of violence against women increases as male unemployment increases. When a woman's male partner is employed, the rate of violence is 4.7 percent. It's 7.5 percent when the male experiences one period of unemployment. It's 12.3 percent when the male experiences two or more periods of unemployment"

http://womenslawreports.blogspot.com/2008/10/domestic-violence-increases-with.html

so while Senator Reid's comments might not have been stated in a politically correct manner, they appear to be accurate. and oh look, I just used your favorite tactic against you!

#2
Sumanth
March 7, 2010
03:34 PM

"we can all find studies to suit our needs, sumanth."

So, what should law makers do?

Should they cherry pick only one set of studies, create policies, enact laws in anger, guilt and chivalry? Should they get the policies drafted by ideologues?

or

Should they make policies based on all studies taking into account what is most effective?

If their past policies and laws enacted by cherry picking data (and one sided studies) had been effective, then the problem would have been cured in US in 15 years. Harry Reid's statement if taken as truth, proves that the programs for prevention of violence have failed.

I never told discard studies from any other source. I said one has to talk science and solve a problem holistically.

Anyway, can you please tell me, if the study you referred to is peer reviewed and if it is published in a reputed scientific journal?

You have given a study from an organisation which survives on these failed state policies and programs. It has its own self interests involved.

(Now, do not tell me that I am like a wall and its futile to debate with me.)

US should stop exporting its voodoo science and failed policies on to other countries just because some ideologues getting restless.

Harry Reid is not the first timer. He is Senate majority leader.

#3
Tom
March 8, 2010
02:30 AM

Senator Harry Reid wrote in his book he beat up his Father in law.

Senator Harry Reid a mean man beating up a Jewish man.

The King Harry Reid can do what he wants he is a God on earth.

#4
Yonkell
March 8, 2010
02:32 AM

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#6
Larry
March 12, 2010
12:09 AM


Harry Reid is just a profiteering human rights abusers.


Harry Reid is a "radical religious fanatical revengeful" human that is dangerous for America.


Harry Reid does not care about victims of crime if they are Semitic peoples.

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