Desicritics Comments on Dr. Binayak Sen – A Poem

Comment by Amitabh Mitra

Thu, 18 Dec 2008 17:17:11 EST

Film Maker Anand Patwardhan said that if Binyak is branded as a Naxalite, please count me in too. Please read this moving story of Shankar Guha Niyogi and Dr. Binyak Sen, their grass root movement by Anand Patwardhan http://sanhati.com/front-page/310/

Comment by Dr Shaleen Kumar Singh

Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:08:52 EST

If a poet publishes something that's in the public sphere, s/he has to accept both flowers and rotten tomatoes. I think it is better to judge and classify ourselves what we offer to a poet flowers or rotten tomato? It will clear our approach to deal a poet or any affair of life. Also, it shows how we from a long time were involved in throwing tomatoes... This throwing of tomatoes is better seen in our politicians whom such persons elect everytime and mourn and criticise later on and fall into anti incumbancy factor...

Comment by commonsense

Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:58:05 EST

my not-so-humble appeal is to try verse-slinging. those not so good at it, could just fling words, especially big, intimidating words.

Comment by kaffir

Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:23:16 EST

My humble appeal is to please refrain from mudslinging on poets and their poetry. Erm, so whenever one publishes a poem, the comment section should be closed? Or only positive comments should be published? I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. If a poet publishes something that's in the public sphere, s/he has to accept both flowers and rotten tomatoes. One can't say 'yes' to one and 'no' to the other, as people will have different responses to it. It's called diversity (which progressives and liberals always advocate for) and accepting that while I may have liked a certain poem, that does not mean everyone else has to like it too, and also accepting that others didn't like it. Or are you proposing that all poets should be universally given accolades irrespective of whatever emotions the poet or his work evoke in readers/listeners?

Comment by slime_id

Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:00:57 EST

#kerty53, Except when thou were a poet thy stances will fetch you a sobriquet Nobody can criticize the poetry Except Desi critic can hymn kertified human puppetry

Comment by kerty

Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:24:59 EST

#52 'My humble appeal is to please refrain from mudslinging on poets and their poetry" Why are poetry and poets above criticism? When they mix poetry and politics, we call it politicization of poetry, and naturally it has to be treated as part and parcel of mudslinging world of politics. These days, political sphere is into everything, and everything is part of political sphere. We no longer live in water-tight compartments, and neither do politics, poetry, arts, propaganda, religion, commercialization, exploitation.

Comment by Dr Shaleen Kumar Singh

Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:37:26 EST

Is it not a waste of time to enter into such a foolish discussion where people are indulging in irrational behaviour? One who is a poet should be seen in the light of the creativity and poetic diction but those who claim that a poet can also be a terrorist must know that a poet's writing on Binayak Sen or anyone else must be looked at from the sheer craft of the creativity itself. My query to these Vocal Fighters is why don't they join the NSG or at least perform a creative activity even if it means taking an anti government stand rather than lambasting here in vain. Amitabh, I remember the poets of Veer Ras who soar to the seventh height of Valour in Hindi poetry, yet never had even killed an ant. My humble appeal is to please refrain from mudslinging on poets and their poetry.

Comment by commonsense

Sun, 14 Dec 2008 20:54:08 EST

Nandana: "It is obvious. Why in the world would Binayak Sen go where he did if not to help his fellow maoists." the iron-clad logic is obvious here. why in the world would anyone want to have a second opinion on this matter when everything is crystal clear?

Comment by Nandana Dasgupta

Sun, 14 Dec 2008 20:31:58 EST

"We are not talking of Maoism at all Do u see Maoism when you see a film by Ritwik Ghatak or Mrinal Sen" When you talk about Bainayak Sen, you are talking about Maoism. It is obvious. Why in the world would Binayak Sen go where he did if not to help his fellow maoists.

Comment by Priyanandan Nair

Sun, 14 Dec 2008 20:27:48 EST

Comment by Priyanandan Nair

Sun, 14 Dec 2008 20:26:39 EST

Comment by Priyanandan Nair

Sun, 14 Dec 2008 20:25:24 EST

Comment by Priyanandan Nair

Sun, 14 Dec 2008 20:24:00 EST

Comment by Amitabh Mitra

Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:59:49 EST

We are not talking of Maoism at all Do u see Maoism when you see a film by Ritwik Ghatak or Mrinal Sen

Comment by kaffir

Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:47:26 EST

"Armed Maoists kidnapped villagers Mansur Ansari, Gulam Ansari and Mateen Ansari from their homes at Haladih-Betiatand village and shot them dead on Friday night, police spokesman S N Pradhan said." Were they Hindutva Maoists? :-)

Comment by kaffir

Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:44:26 EST

But, but, but kerty. There are root causes which make the violent actions of Maoists valid and justifiable. It's only the Hindutva groups who have no basis whatsoever for their violent actions and need to be criticized unconditionally, without any analysis of the root causes. /end facetiousness

Comment by kerty

Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:35:16 EST

Maoist terror claims 8 The Telegraph http://www.telegraphindia.com/1081214/jsp/nation/story_10249923.jsp Ranchi/Giridih, Dec. 13: In an orgy of Maoists-inspired violence at least eight persons were killed in Gumla and Giridih districts last night, while two suspected Naxalites were lynched after villagers retaliated when they were threatened with levies. In Gumla's Kurkura village under Kamdara police station limits, some 70km from the state capital, four persons were gunned down by Maoists. According to police reports reaching Ranchi, around seven armed men entered the village around 7.45pm and "ordered" one Sufal Surin to lead them to the house of Jiten Surin. As soon as Jiten opened the door, they riddled him with bullets, killing him on the spot. By then, Sufal had begun to flee, but the rebels fired at him as well. He was injured, but died this morning. Two passersby, one of whom was identified as Uday Surin, also died in the firing. Today, angry villagers of Kurkura staged demonstrations with the bodies of the victims and demanded that chief minister Shibu Soren visit them to take stock of the situation. "One person died today due to excessive bleeding. He could have been saved provided the villagers informed the police last night. Two among them were criminals," said Gumla superintendent of police Baljeet Singh. In Giridih district, around 8.30pm, Maoists gunned down three men identified as Gulab Ansari, Mansoor Ansari and Matin Ansari in Dudhania village under Pirtand police station limits, around 150km from Ranchi. According to villagers, the rebels believed them to be police informers, but Pirtand officer-in-charge H.E. Siddiqui maintained they were daily wage labourers and had nothing to do with "passing on any type of information" to the police. One Keshar Yadav was shot dead near the Chaki railway station under Saria police station limits in Giridih district. Details were sketchy, but the police said the victim had a criminal background.

Comment by slime_id

Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:54:51 EST

a third thekedhar with a slime id :-) ?

Comment by commonsense

Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:01:21 EST

Mehta, you are the second thekedaar for Kerty, and that's just this thread! i am impressed!

Comment by Mulalluddin Dagar

Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:57:44 EST

"Reminds me of renowned Pritish Nandy's words like dagger thrusts tear open the rage and pain of the third world:" I dont think Pritish Nandy is renowned. I think he is a fool.

Comment by Priyank Mehta

Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:55:04 EST

commonsense: Kerty has no dreams of going to Kandhamal and assisting Maoists like you do. Dont worry, he wont get caught. On the other hand, make sure you control your urge to go and help your comrades before you get into trouble and become the next Binayak Sen.

Comment by commonsense

Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:17:39 EST

Kerty: ""There is no such thing as human right activist in a war zone, only only enemy combatants." Right! Wait till you get caught as an innocent in such a situation. Well, you can always call the animal rights activist association, even though such a call will be an insult to almost all the animals.

Comment by kerty

Sat, 13 Dec 2008 16:04:07 EST

CS Maoists have PR wing that pose as human-right activists and social workers. When Maoists are not donning Maoist outfit and raining bullets, that is what they do - they hide behind different fronts. When their homes get raided, they cry police atrocities. When they get jailed, they cry human right violations. In the mean time, their terror continues on a daily basis. I posted the News links about Maoist terror incidents in Jharkhand - 3 terror incidents in last 3 days, one incident each day. These are not abstract crimes. They are reported in the media. I can post many more links, on a daily basis. This has become serious issue that is causing nightmares in Jharkhand. And who are you losing sleep over? Certainly not the people who are dying of Maoist terror on a daily basis. Do we hear any poetry about those lives, their loved ones, and what they must be suffering? What about their human rights? There is no such thing as human right activist in a war zone, only only enemy combatants.

Comment by Amitabh Mitra

Sat, 13 Dec 2008 15:10:32 EST

Reminds me of renowned Pritish Nandy's words like dagger thrusts tear open the rage and pain of the third world: "though I have never seen the mountains of Columbia your name Camillo Torres the storm has whispered in my blood Straggling groups of guerrillas have gathered near the frontiers and in the foxholes the soldiers wait Last night the storm whispered your name in my blood and I dreamt of a catholic priest fighting as a guerrilla in the lost mountains of Columbia as a bitter rain pursued the dark Darker than the darkness of the forests emptier than a strafed village the night traced a secret justice in the defiant eyes of a woman I have seen this woman hiding in the jungles of Asia I have seen her with a child clinging to her dry breasts as the guns blazed in the ricefields and alien soldiers murdered the innocent Each time the marauders changed their name but the sufferers each time were the same'

Comment by commmonsense

Sat, 13 Dec 2008 11:02:10 EST

all this, if kerty is to be believed, must be squarely blamed on amitabh mitra's friend because illogic dictates, in a fool-proof manner for sure, that ""He has to be a Maoist if he is working as a human right activist in the Maoist infested areas."