http://desicritics.org/ Superior South Asian bloggers on Culture, Media, Politics, Sport, Business, and Technology. en Copyright 2006 by the authors Tue, 14 Oct 2008 10:49:28 EDT http://backend.userland.com/rss BC custom software http://desicritics.org/2008/10/12/085735.php#comment-342854 It is easy to determine intellectually and call ourselves liberal, secular, humanist or whatever. But often we are unable to drop our emotional attachment to our past, to our religion, to our upbringing and it does not really make any diffence what we call ourselves. I tend to agree with Anand #5 that unlike christians and hindus, muslim liberals are not visible. Look at the media, arts, literature, religion etc.. Is there any impact of liberal thinking there in their world? I am not suggesting that those folks are not liberal. I am just wondering why they are unable to get their voice heard. Or why they choose to remain silent. 342854@desicritics.org Tue, 14 Oct 2008 10:49:28 EDT http://desicritics.org/2008/10/12/085735.php#comment-342853 jordan, lebenon, syria are quite liberal compared to other ME countries. their women are really hot by the way. 342853@desicritics.org Tue, 14 Oct 2008 10:41:12 EDT http://desicritics.org/2008/10/12/085735.php#comment-342846 jordan? yes, a fairly liberal society 342846@desicritics.org Mon, 13 Oct 2008 09:45:24 EDT http://desicritics.org/2008/10/12/085735.php#comment-342827 Anybody who knows Jordan more than me. Is it really very conservative? I always thought that they were a fairly liberal society. 342827@desicritics.org Sun, 12 Oct 2008 19:55:11 EDT http://desicritics.org/2008/10/12/085735.php#comment-342824 conservatism in the muslim societies is more of a 'collective' phenomenon. just like christians and hindus a large percentage of them are non-religious but unlike them they dont go open about it and put up with the niche of religiosity throughout their lives never questioning anything. they are muslims by chance ie they were just born in a muslim family. 342824@desicritics.org Sun, 12 Oct 2008 15:47:43 EDT http://desicritics.org/2008/10/12/085735.php#comment-342820 chandra, thanks for sharing this with us. so much for the stupid claim by thekedaars that all muslims (or all members of any religious group for that matter) are all alike, like sheep. 342820@desicritics.org Sun, 12 Oct 2008 13:57:09 EDT http://desicritics.org/2008/10/12/085735.php#comment-342814 Strangely, I keep trying to fix the formatting, but the html doesn't stick - perhaps some embedded characters - need to copy to notepad 342814@desicritics.org Sun, 12 Oct 2008 10:43:56 EDT http://desicritics.org/2008/10/12/085735.php#comment-342813 Chandra, With your permission, I'll copy this and fix some of the formatting problems and submit it to a list run by Sheikh Abdulhadi Palazzi. I'm sure he'll be interested in it.... I may need to read this over more carefully before commenting on the content myself, but from what I read so far, it's a nice job.... 342813@desicritics.org Sun, 12 Oct 2008 10:22:18 EDT http://desicritics.org/2008/10/12/085735.php#comment-342810 formatting issues...sorry 342810@desicritics.org Sun, 12 Oct 2008 09:29:32 EDT