Desicritics Comments on Obama vs. Clinton - De-Sanctifying Politicians

Comment by fussball

Wed, 11 Mar 2009 08:09:55 EDT

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Comment by fussball

Wed, 11 Mar 2009 08:09:14 EDT

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Comment by lieben

Fri, 6 Mar 2009 09:31:10 EST

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Comment by Ritu

Fri, 6 Jun 2008 13:33:09 EDT

perihelionflux #9 : "by using this oxymoronic phrase, your argument has folded over itself.." oh come on don't be so cynical :). Or did you think I was talking about Obama exclusively?

Comment by commonsense

Fri, 6 Jun 2008 10:41:46 EDT

Chandra: ""I think the war on Iraq was right and hopefully US will invade Iran as well. And then to saudi, jordan, syria, etc etc. Clean up the whole bloody region!! And then invade Myanmar and Zimbabwe....clean up the world........."" huh?

Comment by Chandra

Fri, 6 Jun 2008 07:39:10 EDT

I think the war on Iraq was right and hopefully US will invade Iran as well. And then to saudi, jordan, syria, etc etc. Clean up the whole bloody region!! And then invade Myanmar and Zimbabwe....clean up the world.........

Comment by Chandra

Fri, 6 Jun 2008 07:33:21 EDT

SS read 7 about powerful jewish lobby Ruvy 7 I guess one can never be satisfied. Indian lobby organisations in washington consider AIPAC as a model worth emulating. Not only that, there have been joint meetings et al....

Comment by perihelionflux

Fri, 6 Jun 2008 00:17:09 EDT

Ritu#8: "expertise" in politics? and what is that? by using this oxymoronic phrase, your argument has folded over itself..

Comment by Ritu

Thu, 5 Jun 2008 21:07:24 EDT

# johny radio : That is my question, in the past we have never expected our politicians to be perfect family men, devoted husbands, model fathers etc. etc. etc.... We were happy to judge them purely on their performance in their area of expertise.. politics in this case. People are almost naive in their expectations these days.

Comment by Ruvy

Thu, 5 Jun 2008 12:26:33 EDT

(N)Obama's first task after getting nominated was to plead with the powerful Jewish lobby. I t appears I like the guy as much as you do, Chandra. And I read Obama's speech to AIPAC. He hit all the right notes, and said exactly the right things. He snowed 'em but good. Even on some of the Jewish lists I belong to, there was stunned and wondrous surprise. People who had been trashing the guy were suddenly looking a second time. You would have thought a miracle occurred! He said something about being Barack Obama. That was the only part of his speech I believed. But please don't delude yourself about AIPAC being a "powerful Jewish lobby". AIPAC is, in its own eyes, a group of American Jews doing their best for a fellow democracy, a nation that needs their help. It is checkbook Judaism at its idealistic best. In my eyes, AIPAC is something else again. For reasons that are too long to explain here, I won't go into my opinions. But my opinions of AIPAC are not as appreciative of their own. The point is that the FBI sting that got two of their members nearly arrested a year or two ago weakened and scared them terribly. Whatever power they might have thought they had disappeared into the air like steam out of a teakettle. The WASP banking and oil establishment has gotten its message across to the Jewish "headwaiters" very clearly - the Jews are just the "headwaiters" and the WASPs are the owners. Considering what kind of thief we are saddled with for prime minister, and that the previous state president was driven from office for sexual harassment, and the fact that an Israeli rabbi on the lam just got nabbed in Brazil - he's wanted for torturing kids during exorcisms - I will not comment on de-sanctifying politicians.

Comment by commonsense

Thu, 5 Jun 2008 12:24:07 EDT

sharma-winter # 4: Hear Hear! This current infatuation with Obama will not last long! When one goes deeper than rock bottom with GB, anything appears to be nothing less than a miracle....we'll have to wait and see how much wiggle-room he has to deviate from the "stay the course" path...ie. if he actually becomes the Prez.

Comment by d.sharma.winter

Thu, 5 Jun 2008 12:06:40 EDT

In all the tamasha over whether America is liberal enough to allow a black man into the White House, or a woman to be president, the War on Iraq has slipped quietly into the basement. There is very little to choose between Obama who has "reserved the right" to back out of his pledge to get the troops out of Iraq by 2009 and McCain who now says he wants to get the troops out in the next five years. It all sounds like McLiberalism to me

Comment by d.sharma.winter

Thu, 5 Jun 2008 12:05:10 EDT

Comment by smallsquirrel

Thu, 5 Jun 2008 11:48:51 EDT

powerful jewish lobby?!?!?!? you are out of your damned mind. please do identify who these people are. I am really interested.

Comment by johny radio

Thu, 5 Jun 2008 09:43:06 EDT

americans, womanizers and cheaters many, vilified bill to assuage their own guilt. the pot calling the kettle black, the perverted priest calling the homosexual a sinner, the republican calling democrats liars.... americans, like mobs the world over, love to demonize and character-assassinate those in the public eye, lest they themselves be found out. it's the oldest trick in the book-- the guilty are the first to cast stones.

Comment by Chandra

Thu, 5 Jun 2008 05:27:00 EDT

HRC lost because she was sleeping between Feb 6th and Feb 29th. She lost 150 delegates during that period and Nobama finally won by 130 delegates. HRC won the popular vote, not Nobama. Nobama's first task after getting nominated was to plead with the powerful jewish lobby. Now, how is that change? Nothing is going to change in America, only the presidents after every 4 years.