IPL's First Victim: Harbhajan Singh Banned For 11 Matches

I think expecting corporate responsibility in such instances is a little questionable. I cannot think of any precedents but the one that all of us recall is the world cup head butting by Zidane. I donot recall if France were penalised separately (apart from the on field infringement).
Anyway this is a grey area and needs more debate and thought...

what happened to our man Karthik? has he stopped writing or what?



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So what's with Sreesanth anyway? I don't get it. All that aggression I mean (wonder what he's like in bed, he he).

- Deepa

Sreesanth is a smarter guy than people think he is. His tears were just a play act to ensure that the TV cameras caught him.

I pray there is no pogrom of Sikhs in Kerala over this incident, given the fact that Indians are volatile and not mature enough to handle controversies without over-reacting in a violent manner.

Ledzius: I pray there is no pogrom of Sikhs in Kerala over this incident, given the fact that Indians are volatile and not mature enough to handle controversies without over-reacting in a violent manner


Chandra: All bloggers on desicritics must go through and pass the GMAT data sufficeny test. Only then will we see people stop writing idiotic statements like the one above.

Chandra, don't underestimate the idiocy of the masses..

Chandra, you must have a short memory.. have you already forgotten the agitations in W Bengal over the sacking of Ganguly as captain?

Ledzius: it is not just Indians. Sports fanatics are all over the world. There are unreasonable fans and volatile crowds everywhere. I have a feeling thats maybe what Chandra was criticizing, your singling out Indians as immature when "reactionary masses" is a universal phenomenon.

...and I say this although the mention of the GMAT/GRE makes my stomach churn as any standardized test would :)

I am just sad that a game I love has been turned into a media circus and players feel the need to cry like a child in order to hog cameras.

Ledzius, Aditi

Pardon my choice of words.

What i wanted to say is Ledzius's comment (4) cannot be proven to be wrong or right.

here is his sentence

"that Indians are volatile and not mature enough to handle controversies without over-reacting in a violent manner."

In order for this to be correct, the following will have to be true (minimum criteria)

a. More than 50% of all Indians will have to be classified as volatile
b. In every 100 instances of people of two communities clashing, more than 50 instances should have led to a pogram

This apart we will all have to agree on two other terms - Over reaction and Violent manner.


As far as i know, there is no data to support pt 1. One can look at surrogate variables like number of criminal cases filed by police etc. NCRB seems to suggest that this data does not exceed 1% of the population.

There is no data to support pt 2. Moreso because i suspect in many instances conflicts between two people of different states are usually restricted to those individuals. Historically if one were to review state level violence against people of other regions, one comes up with very few instances - Mumbai, Karnataka, Chennai are few isntances. So here again, i am not sure if the data supports Ledzius

Then ledzius provides the example of Sourav Ganguly. Here is where the issue of over-reaction and violence comes into play. If the basic criterion for over reaction is to feel disappointed ,then I suspect half the nation was disappointed. However I am sure by over reaction you donot mean disappointment. I suspect that you meant protests/effigy burning etc. I donot have data relating to SCG's sacking but i do have data on the world cup exit. There were about half a dozen instances of effigy burning. The total number of people involved was significantly lower than 1% of the population. This again shows that a very very small proportion of the population were involved.

If I were you, I would re-phrase the sentence as follows

"I pray there is no pogrom of Sikhs in Kerala over this incident, given the fact that a FRINGE are volatile and not mature enough to handle controversies without over-reacting in a violent manner"

best regards,

Sreesanth escaped very cleverly. He grabbed victim status very soon after that mad rascal slapped him and had everybody's arms in sympathy.

Sreesanth also deserved a mighty kick in the back for breaking down like a child on a cricket field. And dont forget, Sreesanth was the one who kept provoking the Mumbai Indians by constantly abusing them. He was abusing even young and inexperienced tailenders! What an awful sport he is!

Sreesanth escaped very cleverly. He grabbed victim status very soon after that mad rascal slapped him and had everybody's arms in sympathy.

Sreesanth also deserved a mighty kick in the back for breaking down like a child on a cricket field. And dont forget, Sreesanth was the one who kept provoking the Mumbai Indians by constantly abusing them. He was abusing even young and inexperienced tailenders! What an awful sport he is!