http://desicritics.org/ Superior South Asian bloggers on Culture, Media, Politics, Sport, Business, and Technology. en Copyright 2006 by the authors Sat, 24 May 2008 05:47:12 EDT http://backend.userland.com/rss BC custom software http://desicritics.org/2008/04/14/004642.php#comment-333014 To all those critics of Sridhar's article you guys can redeem of your ignorance about Tibet by reading the previous issue of FRONTLINE magazine. N.Ram the editor in chief has written an aricle.Considering he has made several trips to that place i'am sure all of you after reading his artice will endorese Sridhar's article written with very little infrastructure in terms of information.One will be amazed to know how correct he is and how his aricle gets vetted as correct as against N.Ram's prolific writing. 333014@desicritics.org Sat, 24 May 2008 05:47:12 EDT http://desicritics.org/2008/04/14/004642.php#comment-331366 Man Singh...after listening to you we want to say goodbye. 331366@desicritics.org Tue, 6 May 2008 01:05:30 EDT http://desicritics.org/2008/04/14/004642.php#comment-331081 Sridhar # 100 You are free to remind yourself whatever you like. But your attempts to puncture the freedom struggle of suffering Tibetans under chinese communist tyrrany makes you seem standing on tyrants camps exactly the way commies use to do during freedom struggle. It is no secret today that communist party of India was on offcial pay rol of British and so called `janwadi' comerades were nothing but puppets of British licking their boots. It is upto you now if stand for India and its stretegic interests or with againt Indian interests. Definitely welfare of tibetans is above Indian or chinese interests. But if I have to choose between India and China I'll choose India naturally and never support tyrant communists of china who make India humiliated in 1962 and keep on screwing up us even today at every opportunity. I'll say good bye only after my death my freind. Good bye should be said by those who are siding with enemies of India and enemies of humanity. Yes my freid godbye from tyranny whose another name is communism. 331081@desicritics.org Fri, 2 May 2008 14:51:26 EDT http://desicritics.org/2008/04/14/004642.php#comment-331080 Atlantean, McCarthyism was an aberration of the mind which saw commies under the bed and even in toilets.Such a loony is described as- 'He has a one crack mind.' 331080@desicritics.org Fri, 2 May 2008 14:44:02 EDT http://desicritics.org/2008/04/14/004642.php#comment-331077 Bhai Man Singh, Your posts remind me of a quip about a bore-'He says a thousand things, but he never says good-bye.' 331077@desicritics.org Fri, 2 May 2008 14:27:13 EDT http://desicritics.org/2008/04/14/004642.php#comment-331076 Man Singh: ""Chor ki daadhi me tinka"" MS, if you have anything against the chor, why needle his unsuspecting grandmother (daadi)??? Me no get it.... 331076@desicritics.org Fri, 2 May 2008 14:25:58 EDT http://desicritics.org/2008/04/14/004642.php#comment-331065 Sridhar # 92 A thief is always self suspecting (Chor ki daadhi me tinka)is a proverb my freind. As communists used to be on official pay rol of British empire, they think every nationalist is like them. And that's why you are asking this question. I have enough land to grow food grains to sustain myself, my family and even my neighbors. You are also welcome to join me Sridhar in place of selling your `Iman' to anti national commies. Apne baare me batao are you also on payrol of china? 331065@desicritics.org Fri, 2 May 2008 12:08:48 EDT http://desicritics.org/2008/04/14/004642.php#comment-331039 The aritcle is well researched and well referenced. I think we should try to open-mindedly appreciate all points of view, however despicable, abhorrent or disagreeable it may seem to us. I think Sridhar's main focus is that pre-Chinese occupied Tibet was a oppressed, feudal society. Nobody in the comments has given a counter-proof against that. I don't think Sridhar supports the brutal Chinese oppression either, as he indicates in the last paragraph. Even thought the early Communist Chinese may have destroyed the feudal class system of Tibet, they have done more harm, in destroying Tibet's culture, Buddhism and freedom. So for the ordinary Tibet, according to Sridhar, it's from the frying pan of orthodox feudalism, to the fire of Han Chinese Communist occupation and oppression. I think the key word here is democracy, autonomy, equality and freedom, both from feudalism as well as from a foreign brutal ideology and occupation. That is what the Tibetans want, and the arrogant evil Chinese are denying them that right. As for Communism, pure Communism is only a text-book theory and an ideological dream, which has never been truly established on this Earth, and never will. Because greed, pride and a desire for freedom and progress are more deeply ingrained in the DNA of humans that the Communist ideals. All the sham Communist blocs like in U.S.S.R., China, Cuba et al have only seen a set of people ("the party") come to power, ruthlessly use power to loot the resources and oppress people. The "common man" or "proletariat" never really prospered in any Communist regime. It's all a game of power and control, disguised in ideology. Love and peace to all, Ayan 331039@desicritics.org Fri, 2 May 2008 07:43:45 EDT http://desicritics.org/2008/04/14/004642.php#comment-331026 Atlantean: ""I'll stand over the dead body of Communism and laugh like mad. Its going to happen."" Going to happen, as in Nepal for example? 331026@desicritics.org Fri, 2 May 2008 06:49:58 EDT http://desicritics.org/2008/04/14/004642.php#comment-331018 Man Singh: ""seemit van me hi nahi , kintu baste pur gram gharon me bhi."" Boss Man Singh, me don't get it. Can you explain, expand, preferably with a lot of mind-numbing examples? 331018@desicritics.org Fri, 2 May 2008 05:09:08 EDT http://desicritics.org/2008/04/14/004642.php#comment-331016 Atlantean: ""I'm will see the complete extermination of all forms of Communism in India in my life time. I'll stand over the dead body of Communism and laugh like mad."" Talk of delusions of grandeur! And pray why is "laugh like mad" in the future tense? Not sure about the "laugh" part, but your inane rant surely borders on the "mad". Trust you are already on your way to Nepal then? 331016@desicritics.org Fri, 2 May 2008 05:06:38 EDT http://desicritics.org/2008/04/14/004642.php#comment-331003 The CIA again! ROTFL! #77, If I sound like McCarthy, you sound like a paid intelligence official for the Republic of China, always on the lookout for the slightest trace of CIA activity. You see the CIA behind everything like that kid in The Sixth Sense sees dead people that no one else can see - what they call seeing ghosts where there are none. I think they call it Schizophrenia, this disease. Btw, I dont mind being McCarthy. I'm will see the complete extermination of all forms of Communism in India in my life time. I'll stand over the dead body of Communism and laugh like mad. Its going to happen. I can visualize it. Communism will be relegated to school history textbooks where children will be told that Communism was the ugliest longterm phenomenon ever witnessed in human history. They will be told of the untold slaughter, death, hate, deception, cultural genocide and ethnic cleansing that occured during the hundred years after 1917 in the name of Communist revolution. They will be told that no other phenomenon - not even the ugly untouchability practiced in India - can come even remotely close to the pain, suffering, poverty, death and genocide that Communism and its followers brought to the world. The end of Communism is in sight and it is only a matter of time before its evil and pathological existence is wiped out from mother Earth's beautiful face, like the eradication of a virulent and debilitating disease. It would be the dawn of a new era, an era with more life, vitality and vigour than during the deathly days of Communism. Humanity would add another achievement to its list. The eradication of Communism would take its place alongside things like the heliocentric theory, the Renaissance and the eradication of small pox. 331003@desicritics.org Fri, 2 May 2008 02:11:30 EDT http://desicritics.org/2008/04/14/004642.php#comment-330985 Bhai Man Singh, Are you paid by the hour for sending spam for CIA? 330985@desicritics.org Fri, 2 May 2008 00:25:05 EDT http://desicritics.org/2008/04/14/004642.php#comment-330975 CS # 91 Chutiapa makes you nonsense from commonsense. 330975@desicritics.org Thu, 1 May 2008 20:07:21 EDT http://desicritics.org/2008/04/14/004642.php#comment-330974 CS # 91 Chutiapa makes you nonsense from commonsense. 330974@desicritics.org Thu, 1 May 2008 20:06:34 EDT http://desicritics.org/2008/04/14/004642.php#comment-330964 try bhojpuri then 330964@desicritics.org Thu, 1 May 2008 17:16:31 EDT http://desicritics.org/2008/04/14/004642.php#comment-330946 Bhai commonsnese # 87 you can see what happens if somebody writed post in Hindi as advised by you? Mpreover dacoits do not know roman script as well. above all dacoits are a breed that " laato ke bhoot baato se nahi maante" 330946@desicritics.org Thu, 1 May 2008 13:09:24 EDT http://desicritics.org/2008/04/14/004642.php#comment-330945 Bhai commonsnese # 87 you can see what happens if somebody writed post in Hindi as advised by you? Mpreover dacoits do not know roman script as well. above all dacoits are a breed that " laato ke bhoot baato se nahi maante" 330945@desicritics.org Thu, 1 May 2008 13:09:07 EDT http://desicritics.org/2008/04/14/004642.php#comment-330939 [STICK WITH ENGLISH] 330939@desicritics.org Thu, 1 May 2008 11:47:37 EDT http://desicritics.org/2008/04/14/004642.php#comment-330936 Man Singh: ""un dakaito ko English nahi aati thi bhai." Then write in hindi man. your rambling posts, in any language, constitute the most efficient torture device ever invented 330936@desicritics.org Thu, 1 May 2008 05:13:06 EDT http://desicritics.org/2008/04/14/004642.php#comment-330908 Bhai CS # 85 un dakaito ko English nahi aati thi bhai. Ve dabde ki bhasha hi samajhate the. But yea you are right. there are various dacoits and their associates who can be brought on proper path by posting some messages. I remeber Karna's answer to takshak nag in Ramdhari Singh Dinkar's Poem `manushya aur sarp' Re Ashvasen tere anek vanshaj hai chhipe naro me bhi. seemit van me hi nahi , kintu baste pur gram gharon me bhi. Arjun hai mera shatru par sarp nahi nar hi to hai sangharsh sanatan nahi , shatruta is jeevan bhar hi to hai. Nobody is my eternal enemy CS. We have retaliate to tyranny. Unfortunately educated Indians has lost capacity to differentiate between invader and defenders symbolised by `Aurangjeb and Guru Gobing Singh/Shivaji'. They are trying to equate the two merely by seeing arms hands of both. This is what shallow analysis means. 330908@desicritics.org Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:46:24 EDT http://desicritics.org/2008/04/14/004642.php#comment-330906 MS, why did you have to fight off the dacoits physically? You should have inclicted some of your messages on them. They'd have recoiled in horror.... 330906@desicritics.org Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:21:51 EDT http://desicritics.org/2008/04/14/004642.php#comment-330893 Bhai Commonsense #82 n #83 Writing something on the blog and working at grassroot level are two different things. grass root workers may not be very efficient writers and many times these workers are ridiculed for their lack of sophistication. Nehru the sophisticated was choice of media and Gandhi vis a vis Sardar Patel. I am always pro India. I will take indo-centric view of every event. I'll take stand that benefits India vis a vis invaders. I'll stand for `Indian' vis a vis foreign. I'll side by villagers not by dacoits no matter how great dacoits are. their basic disqualification is their tendency to rob others belobgings and stripps them off all the credit of their any good quality. Sridhar and his likes stand for Anti India forces like communist china and his article clandstinely tries to sabotage Tibetans cause. Any supporter of Mao Marx and missionery and jehadis stands for forces working against Indian interests and need to be exposed and even punished for traitorship if need be. My views sounds to be crude and so called educated elite find difficult them to digest. But these methods are time tested and probles are really solved withis villager VS dacoit theory. This theory will solve the problem of Aboriginals of native Americans and Fisrt nations of Canada along with aborginals of Australia and maoris of Newzealand. This theory is applicable to whole South America where natives are sufering like anything. Let me postulate again for your ready refernce: If dacoits/invaders wants to settle peacefully along with natives : 1. Dacoits should abandon dacoity and attacking looting villages. 2. they should apologise for their past sins as British Queen did in Australia. 3. Wherever possible looted items should be returned to natives and where it is not practical to return, they should be duly compensated. 4. Villagers have to strenthen themselves to create an ability to beat back the dacoits if dacoits do not abide by their promise. so sunaar ki , ek luhar ki 330893@desicritics.org Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:54:42 EDT http://desicritics.org/2008/04/14/004642.php#comment-330845 Man Singh: ""Keeping clear from me will not work."" Damn, I spoke too soon! Sridhar, your plan is doomed to failure 330845@desicritics.org Wed, 30 Apr 2008 03:36:34 EDT http://desicritics.org/2008/04/14/004642.php#comment-330838 Sridhar: ""Bhai Man Singh, The torture of reading your posts is more painful than what the Tibetans endured under the Chinese occupation of Tibet."" Sridhar, right on!! You hit the proverbial nail on the head... 330838@desicritics.org Wed, 30 Apr 2008 03:25:19 EDT