http://desicritics.org/ Superior South Asian bloggers on Culture, Media, Politics, Sport, Business, and Technology. en Copyright 2006 by the authors Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:10:12 EST http://backend.userland.com/rss BC custom software http://desicritics.org/2008/02/07/133937.php#comment-322308 Ledzius Same city, different experience :-) 322308@desicritics.org Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:10:12 EST http://desicritics.org/2008/02/07/133937.php#comment-322243 TN isn't as bad as Karnataka in this regard. In Karnataka, all road signs are only in Kannnada. No Hindi, not even English. And any official communication from any state govt dept (like municipal corporation) is only in Kannada. Many a time I have to get my property tax bill translated to English by someone who knows Kannada. And all this in the IT capital of India! What an irony! 322243@desicritics.org Fri, 22 Feb 2008 00:55:24 EST http://desicritics.org/2008/02/07/133937.php#comment-322185 Karunanidhi government has issued an ordinance making Tamil compulsory in all schools in the state. Nope. Lallu Prasad has not announced 'Chhat Pooja' in Chennai to protect the honor of North Indians. North Indians need not apply in TN. North Indian Congress leaders in Maharstara want Hindi to be made an official language of Mumbai, however, they dare not try the same stunt in Chennai, Banglore, Hyderabad, Kolkota or Guwahati first. Why don't we abolish all these languages and make Italian a national language to end these endless language squabbles that are used by politicians to divide and rule? 322185@desicritics.org Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:39:44 EST http://desicritics.org/2008/02/07/133937.php#comment-322177 Sujai, Your arguments are an interesting point of view on the whole language issue. And I am sorry how the comments turn personal and don't even touch the root of your argument. However, is your only argument against Hindi being a rashtra bhasha that people in the south would be disadvantaged in the job market? If so, when learning Hindi is so widely available, how strong an issue is it? Me being from Kerala, I have learned Hindi from a very young age, and I am quite fine with reading/writing/speaking. I believe, it is the same case with the other states except TN. Now, I do feel happy about the fact that TN took a different stand on it, and I think it has worked for them, otherwise, the policy would not have stayed as is. But, still, when learning Hindi is not a hard thing thing to do or rather, it is not considered in a *priviledged* sense, why would its absorption as the main language in India be a problem? 322177@desicritics.org Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:05:28 EST http://desicritics.org/2008/02/07/133937.php#comment-321471 A thought in my mind: I have lived across India and I do not not many regions/communities in India which do not have a genuine grudge. Some just are more trigger happy than the others in my view. Of course, its everyone's judgement as to when its time to make a big noise and when not and who is a fighter for freedom and who a traitor. Having said that, in my view, the number of people treated unfairly in India are a majority. Why can we not simply extend our hands together to fight the feudal minded, power hungry set of people who mess our lives before picking on our differences? In my view the social divide in India should be largely horizantal and not vertical. Again thats a bit generalisation, but hope I make some point... 321471@desicritics.org Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:07:34 EST http://desicritics.org/2008/02/07/133937.php#comment-321470 A thought in my mind: I have lived across India and I do not not many regions/communities in India which do not have a genuine grudge. Some just are more trigger happy than the others in my view. Of course, its everyone's judgement as to when its time to make a big noise and when not and who is a fighter for freedom and who a traitor. Having said that, in my view, the number of people treated unfairly in India are a majority. Why can we not simply extend our hands together to fight the feudal minded, power hungry set of people who mess our lives before picking on our differences? In my view the social divide in India should be largely horizantal and not vertical. Again thats a bit generalisation, but hope I make some point... 321470@desicritics.org Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:07:19 EST http://desicritics.org/2008/02/07/133937.php#comment-321469 A thought in my mind: I have lived across India and I do not not many regions/communities in India which do not have a genuine grudge. Some just are more trigger happy than the others in my view. Of course, its everyone's judgement as to when its time to make a big noise and when not and who is a fighter for freedom and who a traitor. Having said that, in my view, the number of people treated unfairly in India are a majority. Why can we not simply extend our hands together to fight the feudal minded, power hungry set of people who mess our lives before picking on our differences? In my view the social divide in India should be largely horizantal and not vertical. Again thats a bit generalisation, but hope I make some point... 321469@desicritics.org Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:07:10 EST http://desicritics.org/2008/02/07/133937.php#comment-321123 Manoj: ""Hindi, Tamil, Telugu, Kannada, Gujarati, Marathi................. are all INDIAN Languages. As simple as that."" Not so! Kannada is a Canadian language...please don't claim other people's heritage... 321123@desicritics.org Wed, 13 Feb 2008 15:43:31 EST http://desicritics.org/2008/02/07/133937.php#comment-321101 LOL. There is so much to hate and love in India. Only wish I remain on the right side of the road when either of these vehicles speed! 321101@desicritics.org Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:16:40 EST http://desicritics.org/2008/02/07/133937.php#comment-321084 Hindi, Tamil, Telugu, Kannada, Gujarati, Marathi................. are all INDIAN Languages. As simple as that. 321084@desicritics.org Wed, 13 Feb 2008 07:30:25 EST http://desicritics.org/2008/02/07/133937.php#comment-320528 Both D'Susu and Hitchens are Indian http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNarvg0gx3o 320528@desicritics.org Sun, 10 Feb 2008 23:17:49 EST http://desicritics.org/2008/02/07/133937.php#comment-320485 Good one Neusinger! Strangling a defenseless small animal!! I think that both Hitchens and D'Souza are roughly playing the same game: both pretend to debate each other and then sit back while people by their books. On the surface they seem to be defending Christianity and atheism, but both are actually incorrigible Daoists (Dow Jones) and devotees of Abu Daulat :) There are many ways to skin a cat (no not poor flea-bag!) make a buck 320485@desicritics.org Sun, 10 Feb 2008 17:47:26 EST http://desicritics.org/2008/02/07/133937.php#comment-320467 from another blog: I'm beginning to wonder if bothering to criticize Distort D'Newsa is even worthwhile. Yeah, I know, I've done it too, but it's too easy. Sorta the intellectual equivalent of strangling a defenseless small animal. 320467@desicritics.org Sun, 10 Feb 2008 15:24:27 EST http://desicritics.org/2008/02/07/133937.php#comment-320252 Ledzius, Bastard word ka istemaal hi galat kiya! Language is not an offspring. Language developed slowly across regions, each regions maintained a peculiar stand on which language they would like to follow fo day to day requirements.You cannot survive in Tamil Nadu if you cannot follow the language there, nor can you survive in Punjab if you cannot understand Punjabi.Today because the internet is available and anonymous reactions can be voiced, some people start using whatever words they like. yeh Gali galoch discard kar do bhai. Give up this insulting of languages that you did not create. 320252@desicritics.org Sat, 9 Feb 2008 10:55:33 EST http://desicritics.org/2008/02/07/133937.php#comment-320251 Ledzius, Bastard word ka istemaal hi galat kiya! Language is not an offspring. Language developed slowly across regions, each regions maintained a peculiar stand on which language they would like to follow fo day to day requirements.You cannot survive in Tamil Nadu if you cannot follow the language there, nor can you survive in Punjab if you cannot understand Punjabi.Today because the internet is available and anonymous reactions can be voiced, some people start using whatever words they like. yeh Gali galoch discard kar do bhai. Give up this insulting of languages that you did not create. 320251@desicritics.org Sat, 9 Feb 2008 10:54:20 EST http://desicritics.org/2008/02/07/133937.php#comment-320210 Gill-44 You are an [EDITED] Have you even read what I have written before? 320210@desicritics.org Sat, 9 Feb 2008 02:42:51 EST http://desicritics.org/2008/02/07/133937.php#comment-320203 this dinesh-who?-souza sounds like another fresh convert eager to prove the white man's superiority of religious faith. Indian christian preachers/priests/authors are condescendingly encouraged in the west, as they are the trophies of successful third world missionaries . 320203@desicritics.org Sat, 9 Feb 2008 01:12:08 EST http://desicritics.org/2008/02/07/133937.php#comment-320183 an interesting debate between D'Souza and Christopher Hitchens on the D'Souza website, right on the frontpage... http://www.dineshdsouza.com/ Sorry for the digression, off-topic, but a riveting debate nevertheless... 320183@desicritics.org Fri, 8 Feb 2008 18:58:48 EST http://desicritics.org/2008/02/07/133937.php#comment-320181 Dinesh Dsouza: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinesh_D'Souza http://www.dineshdsouza.com/ 320181@desicritics.org Fri, 8 Feb 2008 18:40:36 EST http://desicritics.org/2008/02/07/133937.php#comment-320129 Sujai, Dinesh D'Souza is the archetypical brown-noser...has been at it since the early 1980's...from Bombay...his speciality is attacking all those who are real victims of instiutionalized racism (as opposed to the well-heeled Indians who pretend that they are victims due to injured sensitivities, as opposed to the marginalized taxi drivers, the desi farmworkers in British Columbia, Canada..I am sure he has a website somewhere... 320129@desicritics.org Fri, 8 Feb 2008 17:02:58 EST http://desicritics.org/2008/02/07/133937.php#comment-320125 Sujai: ""Gill: Calm down. Your petulance is causing lot of confusion."" Yes indeed Sardar Sahab Gill. Please calm down. Your petulance could lead to flatulence, and that would be confusion compounded by, well odorous flatulence... 320125@desicritics.org Fri, 8 Feb 2008 16:41:48 EST http://desicritics.org/2008/02/07/133937.php#comment-320124 But then again, why are upset about this article? if language is primarily about, at least in this day and age, about naukri, and only secondarily about poetry and aesthetics that is of course important too...as you well know, poets march on their stomachs...or was it the army? I'm confused... 320124@desicritics.org Fri, 8 Feb 2008 16:39:18 EST http://desicritics.org/2008/02/07/133937.php#comment-320122 "Kaante ki baat means " the statement exactly, sharply (like Thorn edge) suitable to the situation. 320122@desicritics.org Fri, 8 Feb 2008 16:36:06 EST http://desicritics.org/2008/02/07/133937.php#comment-320119 Bhai Man Singh, ""Truely speaking no language is danger to other. Here is exactly where your philosophy of daoism ie Dow Zones ism applies 100%."" Kantey ki baat kahee! Totally agree, especially since you boost my ego by agreeing with me 100% about the Daoism joke! Yes, the purpose of a language is to communicate, not to shed blood over...just commonsense! By the way, what exactly is a "kantey wali baat" as in kantaa ie. thorns? Sounds like a prickly situation... 320119@desicritics.org Fri, 8 Feb 2008 16:33:35 EST http://desicritics.org/2008/02/07/133937.php#comment-320116 Bhai Commonsense # 51 Truely speaking no language is danger to other. Here is exactly where your philosophy of daoism ie Dow Zones ism applies 100%. people today learn English exactly the way they take driving licence. It helps them in finding jobs. `Naukari' ki khatir. It was argiment sake only I made that statement. 320116@desicritics.org Fri, 8 Feb 2008 16:24:40 EST