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<title>Comment by Aaman</title>
<link>http://desicritics.org/2008/02/01/012753.php#comment-320076</link>
<description>you can mail me/us at desicritics at gmail dot com

and please stop using multiple nicknames</description>
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<title>Comment by Anjali</title>
<link>http://desicritics.org/2008/02/01/012753.php#comment-320073</link>
<description>Where can I find the email addresses of the editors who specifically edit comments?

Also I would like to have the email address of Aaman Lamba.

Thanks!</description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 8 Feb 2008 13:54:24 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Avinash</title>
<link>http://desicritics.org/2008/02/01/012753.php#comment-319764</link>
<description>Great going commonsense :)

However, I am waiting to see if there is any response to 43 and 45. Not that I expect anything...even if I receive a notice that will be great;-)</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 6 Feb 2008 12:56:27 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Amit</title>
<link>http://desicritics.org/2008/02/01/012753.php#comment-319645</link>
<description>[EDITED]</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 6 Feb 2008 03:06:13 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by ravi</title>
<link>http://desicritics.org/2008/02/01/012753.php#comment-319642</link>
<description>Aman

if the #67 is for me, i don&#039;t have any objection. I will not respond to such comments on me, assuming they will take care of by DC editors.</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 6 Feb 2008 02:28:00 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Aaman</title>
<link>http://desicritics.org/2008/02/01/012753.php#comment-319622</link>
<description>OK, end this sniping</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 6 Feb 2008 01:08:48 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by ravi</title>
<link>http://desicritics.org/2008/02/01/012753.php#comment-319586</link>
<description>[EDITED]</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 5 Feb 2008 22:21:31 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by ravi</title>
<link>http://desicritics.org/2008/02/01/012753.php#comment-319580</link>
<description>commonsense
!!!rust me a &quot;blow&quot; is a blow even if the lady is wearing a T-Shirt over a blouse. It is still DV.!!!

   strange, finally one thing you accepted that i said. *good signs*</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 5 Feb 2008 22:13:00 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by ravi</title>
<link>http://desicritics.org/2008/02/01/012753.php#comment-319579</link>
<description>commonsense
!!!Yes, spam is cured meat sold in tin cans. Are you getting any?!!!

     forget about me friend, what about you? i think you are getting it.</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 5 Feb 2008 22:11:21 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by commonsense</title>
<link>http://desicritics.org/2008/02/01/012753.php#comment-319568</link>
<description>Sumanth:

&quot;&quot;We, the SIFF guys had no hope that there are any real sane, rational bloggers around. We presented and keep presenting data to show that feminists are lying, and not even a handful rose against the feminist hypocrisy.&quot;&quot;

Poor you! Would it have made a difference if the feminists were standing up, not lying? And what pray is a &quot;handful rose&quot;? [EDITED]

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<pubDate>Tue, 5 Feb 2008 21:44:12 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by commonsense</title>
<link>http://desicritics.org/2008/02/01/012753.php#comment-319563</link>
<description>[EDITED]:

&quot;&quot;But UPA Govt has problems when SC says the presents during and after marriage are not Dowry!!!&quot;&quot;

Thakur Sahab, why do you have to refer to Mayawati as SC? Caste one-upanship, huh? [EDITED]</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 5 Feb 2008 21:28:11 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by commonsense</title>
<link>http://desicritics.org/2008/02/01/012753.php#comment-319560</link>
<description>Ravi:


&quot;&quot;I think you know the definition of spam. The #45 post you are posting repeatedly, categorized as spam. ;)&quot;&quot;

[EDITED]</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 5 Feb 2008 21:25:11 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by commonsense</title>
<link>http://desicritics.org/2008/02/01/012753.php#comment-319559</link>
<description>Ravi:

&quot;&quot;Oh! come on, commonsense. you are too much yaar, why only blouse, even she wear a T-shirt, shirt, what ever may be, giving &#039;blows&#039; to her is DV, I know that. But what i said, is different. I thought that after giving the reference (#2,sumanth) you can understand what i said. But you still.. ;)&quot;&quot;

Trust me a &quot;blow&quot; is a blow even if the lady is wearing a T-Shirt over a blouse. It is still DV. Unless you want to take the meaning of a &quot;blow&quot; in an entirely different direction...
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<pubDate>Tue, 5 Feb 2008 21:23:34 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by commonsense</title>
<link>http://desicritics.org/2008/02/01/012753.php#comment-319556</link>
<description>Rath-hole wrote:

&quot;&quot;Mayawati filed IT return showing her income as Rs 52 crores stating all of that is the gift to her from her party!!!&quot;&quot;

Plain jealous or sad that you cannot marry her?

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<pubDate>Tue, 5 Feb 2008 21:19:44 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by commonsense</title>
<link>http://desicritics.org/2008/02/01/012753.php#comment-319555</link>
<description>Ravi:

&quot;&quot;I think you know the definition of spam. The #45 post you are posting repeatedly, categorized as spam. ;)&quot;&quot;

Yes, spam is cured meat sold in tin cans. Are you getting any?
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<pubDate>Tue, 5 Feb 2008 21:18:26 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by commonsense</title>
<link>http://desicritics.org/2008/02/01/012753.php#comment-319554</link>
<description>sumanth:

&quot;&quot;We are immune to all kinds of name calling. We love the people who use &quot;teri maki&quot; sort of language.&quot;&#039;

So, all those threats about suing were just that? Just cowardly threats. Are you claiming now that you are not quie the &quot;suer&quot; that you wish to be...&quot;suer&quot; means something interesting in Hindi. Somebody please tell me. Otherwise this &quot;suer&quot; will threaten to &quot;sue&quot; me, since this is what all &quot;suers&quot; do...it&#039;s in their nature...

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<pubDate>Tue, 5 Feb 2008 21:16:10 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by commonsense</title>
<link>http://desicritics.org/2008/02/01/012753.php#comment-319550</link>
<description>Sumanth:

&quot;&quot;So, when anyone challenges the existing &quot;stereotypes&quot; or assumptions, that person is viciously attacked by the establishment and the mindless clones. Often vulgar language is used&quot;&quot;

You are stereotyping yourself and then viciously biting your own tail..mind your clone my friend...</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 5 Feb 2008 21:12:44 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by commonsense</title>
<link>http://desicritics.org/2008/02/01/012753.php#comment-319548</link>
<description>Sumanth:

&quot;&quot;It is a fact that most Indians lack the intellectual capability to think cohesively and argue without getting personal. Moreover, most Indians lack bare minimum levels of &quot;individuality&quot;.&quot;&quot;

Wait, you are still Indian, so don&#039;t indulge in self-abuse (also known as self-service). Not until you are on the moon...then you will not be Indian, but simply lunar...the adjective of it is, lunatic...
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<pubDate>Tue, 5 Feb 2008 21:10:16 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by commonsense</title>
<link>http://desicritics.org/2008/02/01/012753.php#comment-319544</link>
<description>Sumanth:

&quot;&quot;Calling any particular person a bitch or pimp or bastard by taking the name is &quot;verbal abuse&quot; and can also be considered as &quot;defamation&quot; according to law. All this activity is criminal. The comments (5) and (6) fall under this category as they use a specific person&#039;s name and vulgar adjectives are used.&quot;&quot;

And when you stop foaming and frothing, do learn how to read. Are you sure you refer to #5 and #6? It&#039;s not edited, so feel free and read them again...the moon mission is almost ready...

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<pubDate>Tue, 5 Feb 2008 21:05:56 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Avinash</title>
<link>http://desicritics.org/2008/02/01/012753.php#comment-319491</link>
<description>Rathor,

Not to worry, very soon the UPA govt will not have a problem either.

And then it is party time for the sniffers, break your spinal cord, roll on to the couch, and demand dowry. 

NOW , &lt;b&gt;the law will work its way around your(sniffers&#039;) dowry demands/ gifts/ valentine day goodies/ baby gifts/ b&#039;day gifts/ gifts for MIL, SIL her family/ FIL/BIL etc etc.. Hats off to the Indian law &lt;/b&gt;( and even the editors of DC)

Good old days are back. </description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 5 Feb 2008 18:30:46 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by A.K.Rathor</title>
<link>http://desicritics.org/2008/02/01/012753.php#comment-319490</link>
<description>Dowry Items:
1&gt;Archie Card Rs 50
2&gt;BirthDay Cake Rs 400
3&gt;Birth Day/Aniversary Presents
4&gt;Diamond Ring to Wife on V Day !!!
...
...

Mayawati filed IT return showing her income as Rs 52 crores stating all of that is the gift to her from her party!!!

And guess what - The Return is accepted by IT Department!!!

But UPA Govt has problems when SC says the presents during and after marriage are not Dowry!!!
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<pubDate>Tue, 5 Feb 2008 18:03:29 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by ravi</title>
<link>http://desicritics.org/2008/02/01/012753.php#comment-319483</link>
<description>annamma

!!When we break it, its because we are interpreting it in the spirit of the law - so when we took dowry, it was only gifts, really yaaar...worth 350, or 3500, or 3 lakhs!!!!!

      I agree with your comment, that most of the indian feels that laws are for others, that&#039;s why they take dowry.Even feminists also take dowry (same &quot;rules are for others&quot;,of course this is my statement). 

   But how can you compare 350 rupees goods given to a person, with a car/scooter. Just take a case, if anyone arranges a birthday party, people who comes to that birthday party gives gifts. Not only that, for every celebration, people give gifts(at least flowers). Can we say it is not good. like that, at the time of marriage also people will give gift, but what should categorize as gift or dowry?
       
      If it goes in that form, if a person from groom side asks a matches to bride side person to lit cigarette, if a women from groom side asks a flower, if boy ask a chocolate..can we consider them as dowry, just because all the above asked at  the time of marriage. 

     I am sorry, i went overboard to describe what i want to ask. my intention is just to ask you how can you justify something as gift or dowry? any way for any occasion, gifts are common ( in any society). </description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 5 Feb 2008 17:28:55 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by temporal</title>
<link>http://desicritics.org/2008/02/01/012753.php#comment-319481</link>
<description>48:

this is a gentle dose intended for the patient when he tends to go overboard and he understands that:)

if used daily or on the hour it could be a nuisance or a spam

used judiciously it helps the patient:)</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 5 Feb 2008 17:21:43 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by ravi</title>
<link>http://desicritics.org/2008/02/01/012753.php#comment-319474</link>
<description>#38
commonsense

!!Ravi, even if someone&#039;s wife is wearing a &quot;blouse&quot; when &quot;blows&quot; are delivered to her, it would still be DV.!!

    Oh! come on, commonsense. you are too much yaar, why only blouse, even she wear a T-shirt, shirt, what ever may be, giving &#039;blows&#039; to her is DV, I know that. But what i said, is different. I thought that after giving the reference (#2,sumanth) you can understand what i said. But you still.. ;)
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<pubDate>Tue, 5 Feb 2008 17:05:07 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by ravi</title>
<link>http://desicritics.org/2008/02/01/012753.php#comment-319471</link>
<description>#47
temporal

 I think you know the definition of spam. The #45 post you are posting repeatedly, categorized as spam. ;)</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 5 Feb 2008 16:59:14 EST</pubDate>
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