Sachin Tendulkar for Bharat Ratna?

Bharat Ratna for what? Evading duty tax when the Ferrari came in? Tell me, how many matches has Sachin won for India in his entire career?

Dilip - Quite a number of them. It is just too long a career to notice probably. Try statsguru at cricinfo. But when you ask that question, the whole point of the article is missed!

sachin has given his all to India, we exused him. no any cricketer has given help for children . we must give Bharat Ratna to SACHIN TENDULKAR>

if playin fr a club deserves bharat Ratna. Then I deserve it too.

Give me a break guys, would u guys even support someone like vishy anand. Tats a more real genius if u are lookin fr tat.

Someone like leander paes is much better than sachin. Sachin has not even played one match winnin innings in his life. He has been disappointment in terms of crucial matches. Okk okkk forget abt sharjah 98 move on its ten full years.

Moreover he plays fr a club called BCCI and not fr country called India. His record is exemplary but it begs a question whether record came beacuse he played really well or he played only fr records.
I have been witness to almost all his tons and not once did he play fr team when he reached 90s. Once he reached 90's whether he was 16 yr old or 34 yr old he made sure tat he got his ton and not whether india win the match or not. We lost innumerable moments due to tat. A lil bit more unselfish attitude and we wud have won those moments.

Moreover his selfish attitude towards kambli. His vengeance with the one who helped him build his career (Azhar). He is a downright mumbailite with a ficklesome and cunny and a royal attitude.

Yaa Bradman invited him fr lunch. I wud use jeff thompson (australian) praise of bradman to praise sachin "BAST***". Refer cricinfo if u doubt Jeff Thompson (Australias tearaway fast bowler).

Both Bradman and Sachin played fr records. I am not sure of former and I dont even have a little bit of doubt about the later.

Sachin is a continuation of Mumbai BA******** after Sunil Gavaskar. Both of them are nothing but money making machines fr their family and they played fr records and not fr the team. Thye shd be respected as same. I doubt whther sachin wud even play one match innings in test cricket ever in his life. He has been simply pathetic in terms of national patriotism.

Also one more example of his (u know the word by now).
When Indian team was doing unbelievable well under Dada (the most succesful idnian captain. This fellow thinking as if he is holier than thou said to Dada " he will only play as opener in odi".

Is this how a top player responds to the best ever skipper. Ridiculous. If at all he had an iota of love fr the team he wud have played at no-4. When his chela (wall) asked to play at no-4. This nautanki obliged. Does he deserve even a place in the indian team after this? He is an outright loafer.

Well now its even proven beyond doubts tat all his odi record is a myth. If he had played at no-4 he wud have had this records.

400 matches
4000 runs
strike rate - 22.00

He wudnt even had half a career tat he has now. All bloody mumbai politics. I just hope dilip vengrasakr sees this.

My pick fr test cricket hero ever is Rahul Drvaid and VVS Laxman ( both of them deserve much better than sachin.

Azharuddin was a better test cricketr than sachin (if u want controversial statements)

@lomi:

I agree with you only on the vishwanathan anand part.
on the rest, i can only smile at your ignorance and pedestrian attitude. :)

i think sachin gets place after gandhi

I don't think the Bharat Ratna ought to be trivialized by giving it to a 35 year old - whoever he may be. Tendulkar has been a sportsman and has been an exemplary one.

It is best that the award not be given at all if there is no candidate.

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In my book or blog or anywhere for that matter, there is nothing as worthy of celebration in Indian sport as Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar.
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Little modification here..

There is nothing as worthy of celebration in Indian sport or otherwise (arguably) as Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar. Period.

I won't beat about his records (wears me out everytime someone comes up with ques like 'how many matches he's won for India'.. Visit statsGuru or cricinfo, duh), his earnings (yeah rt :-/), inexplainable linkages drawn betw those two, trivial things like whether he paid taxes on ferrari (when his contribution to Children welfare and NGOs goes unnoticed coz the little man keeps it undercover most of the times) and what not..

All I want to say is that Bharat Ratna isn't given for doing or not doing all those things, it is given for a much bigger cause and subsequent effect and Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar is more than just a cricketer. He's an inspiration, he's a phenomenon from which one can learn a million things, he is the personification of the very fact that 'if you marry an incredible work-ethic with the talent you're born with, then there's nethin you can achieve'. He doesn't deserve a 'Bharat Ranta' since for his contributions to 'Bharat', his dedication to the cause of keeping countrymen happy, his 7 hour vigils for nearly 18 years to give his countrymen a sweet night's sleep deserve somethin else.. A Maha-Bharat Ratna.

Sach is life. Period.

cheat govt in crores and give 1000 rss to poor isnt exact way of charity my dear brother.

He earns thro restaurant and wat contribution and wat did he sacrifice fr country.

Abdul Kalam sacrificed USA life and NASA job fr his country. He doesnt utter a word against brahmin hypocrisy in DRDO. He doesnt utter a word againts the crappy BJP and its policies (makin him open painting of war criminal called veer savarkar (actually he shd be called porikki savarkar)).
A downright apervert lustful bast*** called savarkar is glorified by ur Bast*** party called BJP led by morons called modi and advani and u talk abt justice.

Sachin doesnt deserve bharat ratna ever and period period period.

Yaa he deserves knighthood and he can be slave to queen like ponting and take sir or wateva crappy titles tat witch hunting Loafer theif govt called british govt gives him.

I wonder does he visit queen house everytime he goes to england?

@lomi:

The definition of public service has changed manifolds. I am not sure hot to explain to you because you fail to see you beyond your aversion for Sachin Tendulkar. You'll do yourself a favor by reading the following:

http://www.ibnlive.com/blogs/sagarikaghose/223/3609/disinvest-the-bharat-ratna.html

Thats^^ exactly my point..

Actually, Bharat Ratna should feel honoured with Sachin......


and even this world's highest honour may be nobel prize (if it was for sports ), must have been bestowed to sachin, no that particular honour would have felt honoured to perpetuaity .

look, at my points in detail aspects...

Its crystal clear, that sachin is the person to influence 120 crores indians in this modern era (each indian), it was Gandhiji previously.

Now what is his influence or total impact on us or even the planet at large?

Looking by his karma gestures n humbleness, on india in particular n world in general, no one ever has given (not achieved ) more in the modern era .

What has he given (not looking at what has he achieved's angle), happiness, self belief ,joy, true art , majesticity,confidence.
n countless more undefined.

he earns crores but thats a medium of life, do we want materialstic pleasures really, or the art of spirituality.

spirituality coz... when a person becomes higher than his karma, he attains salvation or moksha.

just look at him n u wud see he has achieved that, n we hav got some of it by sheer watchin him.

and for critics, good n correct criticism is important but wud u criticize the SUN for burning us to flames of envy,jealousness n
desires.

SACHIN is the world's only modern surviving legend till now in his 37 years in this planet.

so "Sachin being GOD of cricket" is correctly hailed in this quote is enough to justify that he is a special creation of THE GOD.

After getting Bharat Ratna, Sachin Tendulkar, the fool can join some fund chasing mercenaries from United States of America and dance to their tunes.

The ignorant fool has already given his consent join the sexist gender hate groups.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/How-to-treat-a-woman-Sachin-shows-the-way/articleshow/5604394.cms

Scoring couple of runs, does not make him a social scientist. It wont take much time to lose all the reputation if he sells himself to Radical Feminists.

Sumanth

I wonder what makes you hate Tendulkar so much! What he should do or not do is his business (as we heard in the SRK case so vociforously!) Have developed sudden amnesia about individual rights or is it plain hate mongering against individuals from a certain region, religion, profession (i don't know what is your hate trigger).

No matter what you think, it wouldn't hurt to keep the debate sensible and focused on the Sachin's contribution to sport and his excellence in it.

Not expecting you to reform. Just feeling a mixture of amusement and sadness that you should hate an exemplary sportman for all not sports related stuff.

AJ

AJ,

What does Sachin know about Domestic Violence Industry that he has decided to join it?

I respect Sachin as a sportsman.

If he indulges in stereotyping men and works for violation of civil liberties of men (due to his ignorance), then I have no respect for him and Sachin will get some very nasty bouncers.

He has no business to teach men any lessons as I do not think he even understands situation of men in India.

Domestic violence impact women, men, children and elders. Sachin is a fool if he gets into these areas without understanding the issues.

If Sachin enters into Gender Politics and indulges in reinforcing the stereotypes, then he will get hit with bouncers in a game where he is a novice.

If Sachin betrays the trust invested on him by a billion people by being a puppet of anti-Indian mercenary groups operating from foreign
countries, then he will face stiff opposition.

Sachin has seen divorces of his friends and he know the child custody mess that Anil Khumble is into. He should learn something first before trying to teach other men or cricketers about how to behave with women. He should first learn to be sensitive to vulnerabilities of men, before telling men how to behave.

Is any sportswoman teaching women on how to behave with men?

He is already getting mails in his SachinTendulkar Opus website.

In a war, one does not see how is an Icon, how is friend, teacher or grandfather. If Sachin chooses to be on the other side in a Gender war imposed from western countries, he will get what he deserves.

http://www.wemen.us/articles/views/701-sachin-tendulkar-double-century-or-double-standards.html

One-sided vague statistics and Sachin enrolled to spread stereotyping and hate against men and boys.

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NEW DELHI: Want to play like Sachin Tendulkar on the field? First, behave like him off it. With domestic violence becoming a serious problem in India â€" one in three married women reporting some form of abuse â€" around 25 cricket coaches in Mumbai are now being trained to teach their players how to behave with a woman.

Initiated by the International Centre for Research on Women (ICRW), in collaboration with Family Violence Prevention Fund (FVPF) and Mumbai School Sports Association (MSSA), project 'Parivartan' hopes to use India's most popular sport to curb domestic violence.

The project, on the lines of the famous American programme 'Coaching Boys Into Men', has been endorsed by Sachin himself.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mumbai/Sachin-bats-for-campaign-against-domestic-violence/articleshow/5605016.cms

@lomi,

where you got all these information. Huh, yeah azhar is great person, so everybody need to help him. Everybody know about azahar, and why he banned from cricket.

And kambli, go and tell all these to kambli, definitely he will be a surprised man.

And ganguly, he is good captain but a failed batsman.

you anger against sachin surprises anyone who can thing or atleast try to think. Because all your allegations are baseless, useless too.

And stop uttering as brahmin hypocrasy ans so and so. I don't know what some section of people trying to prove by pointing figer at brahmins.

Even in my blog also some person commented in the same line saying India is dominated by brahmins and blah.. blah. In many forums, they are trying to spew venom on brahmins. Of course, many people know their aim.

kalam didn't say anything against communal forces and also some psude secular parties. It's his nature to concentrate on his work. That's why he became a great person, great scientist.

you are uttering non-sense about savarkar, the greate freedom fighter. That clearly tells about you.

The level of debate on this forum degenerating every day. I hope it stays civil otherwise it would be a tragic end to efforts put in by so many desicritics, Aaman and Deepti.

AJ

please read 'is degenerating'

AJ,

What you are trying is a cheap trick, which one can easily see through.

Debates are a reflection of prevailing conditions of a society and the levels of thinking of its people.

When people like Sachin Tendulkar refuse to grow up, learn the issues and in stead dance to the tunes of western fund chasing mercenaries, stop expecting some "very humble talk here".

Have you seen the debates in Parliaments and Senates in the world and in TV channels? Are they full of humility? People are beating each other up inside parliaments.

The evidence is very clear. After Sachin sold himself to various commercial interests for crores of money, he has lost his senses and has surrendered to an American Mercenary organisation and its Indian partners.

By displaying him as a dumb poster boy, these organisations will break the Indian family system completely by spreading hate through Sachin Tendulkar's mouth. People are running around 6 courts, when they have a marital problems. Now, Sachin wants to join the fun forgetting that he also has a son.

Family Violence Prevention Fund is an organization of radical ideologues and for it family means only "young women in reproductive age" and it believes that

Australian Steve Waugh did so much for poor children in Sachin's own city. What has Sachin done? How much money has he contributed?

Bharat Ratna? For what?

(I will open much more details of this International nexus very soon.)

The dirty game is not started by any Indians.

It is started by vested foreign interests, WEF, United Nations and USAID, who have used the NGO route to destabilize Indian society and gender relationships.

If some Indian fools can not see the colonial dirty games and in stead wag tails like Dogs to the foreigners, they will get very dirty treatment.

Sachin has ignored the enormous numbers of suicides, deaths and destruction due to bad implementation of gender policies forced on us by "western agencies" without looking at ground realities. Even 2 month of child has to get bail in Mumbai. Where was Sachin Tendulkar then?

We will not forgive any Indians who dances to the tunes of western agencies. We do not want any welfare or betterment.

One out of 4 teenage girls in USA have STD. Why these western organisations do not clean up their own closet first?

Sumanth

As much as I would like to avoid one-on-one off topic conversations, I could not let this go :)

Thanks for crediting me with some trick (even if cheap)... I am honored!

Your point-of-view seems to be Sachin should not have aligned himself with the stated cause because
a. He does not understand the intricacies
b. The cause itself is a conspiracy to break Indian family system
c. As a 'man' he is doing a disservice to fellow men
d. Due to the above, he should not get Bharat Ratna (more strongly, it is ridiculous to even think of it)

Fair, it is your POV. This is a forum to express it and you did.

Now, coming to HOW you express it!

Are we suggesting that because there are fights in the parliament, people killing each other all over, and so on, we resort to similar stuff here?

Not sure, if all of us want to follow these glowing examples of debating practices! I have not noticed any particular benefits of adopting these practices...perhaps it ensures that there is no scrutiny of 'what' is being said! :)


AJ

AJ,
"Not sure, if all of us want to follow these glowing examples of debating practices! I have not noticed any particular benefits of adopting these practices..."

So, that's your view.

Truth has to be told loudly in India. Because most people in India have got skin of a Rhino.

My views about Sachin are just important perspectives. He is trying to bat in a game where he is a novice.

Please understand, that most people foolishly worship celebrities. Some even worship foreigners (white skin firangs). Then, there is political correctness.

When one speaks with a soft voice with lot of humility, most dumb foolish stupid Indians think him as an incompetent joker.

The rhino skin needs some harsh treatment.

People today are brainwashed by commercial entities selling brands and shifting consumer behaviour. They use celebrities like Sachin and sugar coat with nice sounding social welfare messages or slogans.

The hypocrisy has reached unbearable levels.
Some people have lost patience and they do not want to waste time anymore.

No one is interested in solving any fucking problem anywhere in India or world. Every moron is interested in selling something or other to someone or other. They are desperate to sell.

The used car salesmen need a kick in their ass. Celebrities should stop working for used car salesmen.

Nobody talks about Gwalior, its special environment, the magic of Chambal water and the Gwaliorites who gave the match a magic touch and the blessings of the late Rishi Gwala.