Desicritics Comments on Who Will Listen to Para's Silent Screams?

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Comment by Bonamy

Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:43:34 EST

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Comment by Bonamy

Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:42:34 EST

Comment by Amye

Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:41:24 EST

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Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:40:24 EST

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Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:39:05 EST

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Comment by Sirius

Wed, 17 Oct 2007 10:17:16 EDT

Sumanth, imagine this : You area woman, and in the place of Para. What would you do?

Comment by Jawahara

Wed, 17 Oct 2007 03:58:50 EDT

I would say that if enough people really cared in India to take on the police and the judiciary these incidents could be lessened somehow. Sadly I don't see that happening.

Comment by Sumanth

Wed, 17 Oct 2007 02:45:00 EDT

One has to hold on to a single issue and keep pestering the politicians continuously. When severe punishment is given to erring policemen, the system will fall in place.

Comment by A.K.Rathor

Tue, 16 Oct 2007 18:24:37 EDT

I see only one solution to such problems!!! Police and Judicial Reforms. Govt. is not putting enough money deliberately in Judiciary and almost 50% of the Bench at HC level is vacant in all states. Forget about increasing the number of Judges at lower, Session and HC level, courts are running only with 50% capacity. Govt. is more interested in increasing the number of MPs !!! With low salary, most of the Police force are either feeling down or are "forced corrupt". Imagine when you start getting verdicts in 30 days. Unless until we have fast trials in mass with both mentioned reforms, crime along with misuse of law will not subside!!! What every one wants and deserves is a fair trial and quick verdict to move on in life and not the trauma for decades!!!

Comment by Sumanth

Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:16:44 EDT

Often, it can be impossible to go to the root. So, it is important to keep hitting one part of system hard enough that it gets propagated to the rest of the system. Single decision in parliament is enough to start the police reforms that are pending since long. Another consensus in parliament will lead to judicial reforms. But, is anyone demanding them? I agree things are multi-dimensional. But, one has to hit ruthlessly at the issues to get them through. Just intellectual discussions will not help. If police reforms have to happen, then people have to flood the speaker, politicians, parliamentary standing committees, with mails, faxes and letters. This has to be brought within first 5 high priority issues. That can only happen with inspiration and determination. Are people interested in police reforms inspired? Do they see with reforms how many Para Devis can be saved from abuse? If yes, then why do not they create focused campaigns, load videos into YouTube, make media go through them. Too many excuses of police being underpaid are made in media. Is India so poor that it can not even pay policemen a decent salary? Unless police force is reformed and disciplined, we can do nothing. "Knowledge makes no difference. What is needed in action. Too many books are written. Too much is discussed." If politicians are not allowed to sleep in peace, they have no choice but reform the police. 2000 to 3000 highly inspired people can do this. Just demand "police reforms" daily in media, in blogs, mails to politicians, bureaucrats and NGOs. The other way is to analyse: "Too much Analysis leads to Paralysis."

Comment by Sumanth

Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:01:48 EDT

Single decision in parliament is enough to start the police reforms that are pending since long. Another consensus in parliament will lead to judicial reforms. But, is anyone demanding them? I agree things are multi-dimensional. But, one has to hit ruthlessly at the issues to get them through. Just intellectual discussions will not help. If police reforms have to happen, then people have to flood the speaker, politicians, parliamentary standing committees, with mails, faxes and letters. This has to be brought within first 5 high priority issues. That can only happen with inspiration and determination. Are people interested in police reforms inspired? Do they see with reforms how many Para Devis can be saved from abuse? If yes, then why do not they create focused campaigns, load videos into YouTube, make media go through them. Too many excuses of police being underpaid are made in media. Is India so poor that it can not even pay policemen a decent salary? Unless police force is reformed and disciplined, we can do nothing. "Knowledge makes no difference. What is needed in action. Too many books are written. Too much is discussed." If politicians are not allowed to sleep in peace, they have no choice but reform the police. 2000 to 3000 highly inspired people can do this. Just demand "police reforms" daily in media, in blogs, mails to politicians, bureaucrats and NGOs. The other way is to analyse: "Too much Analysis leads to Paralysis."

Comment by B Shantanu

Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:23:37 EDT

@ Sumanth: "What is the long term solution?" I am glad you asked...Everything you mention: corrupt police, incompetent judiciary, somnolent media etc etc are symptomatic of a deeper malaise... To fix these, you need to think about the distortions in the system and how does one begin a systemic overhaul. You may want to begin by reading this: http://satyameva-jayate.org/2007/09/14/fixing-the-system/

Comment by temporal

Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:15:08 EDT

sumanth sahib: this is not your forte please go and tend to hurt egos there ;)

Comment by Sumanth

Tue, 16 Oct 2007 14:57:47 EDT

What is the long term solution? One can not wait for another thousand women to get raped and then denied justice. 1) Police Reforms. 2) Judicial Reforms so that trials can be completed quickly. 3) Women to carry weapons in street just like Sikhs to deter molestors. If sikhs can do it, why can not women? 4) Campaign for severe Punishment to policemen and police women, who take bribes to refuse complaints by poor. We can talk about roads and infrastructure. But, a society can not run, if the law enforcement system is corrupt and gets bought by rich and influential. The Union Government has to bring bills in parliament to clean up the law enforcement system immediately with highest priority. Government evades because people and even media tolerate the excesses by police.

Comment by temporal

Tue, 16 Oct 2007 14:42:30 EDT

dee that would be nice one small step at a time

Comment by Deepti Lamba

Tue, 16 Oct 2007 14:24:58 EDT

T, I know the head of a woman's group in Delhi. I will try and get her to talk to her sister organization in Rajasthan about this matter.They are best equipped to deal with these matters and if I am able to make any headway I will report about it on this thread.

Comment by Sumanth

Tue, 16 Oct 2007 14:13:06 EDT

Discussion and mental gynastics will not help. Now, write 10 points on how you can support (not help) the abused woman? She will be helpless if you consider her as helpless. 1) Write 200 mails to NHRC and NCW with copies to media. 2) Write 200 mails to president of India with copies to Governor of state and media, the journalist Mita Kapur and if possible state police. Fax the mail to president to local police stations or commissioner of police. One can find fax numbers in state online telephone directories. presidentofindia(at)rb(dot)nic(dot)in 3) 4) 5) 6).......

Comment by temporal

Tue, 16 Oct 2007 14:12:37 EDT

ss, dee, shant., jay and others what can be done to alleviate her sufferings?...though monetary aid is not a substitute it can go some way in helping her in her quandary anyone knows if a fund can be/or is set up for her?

Comment by temporal

Tue, 16 Oct 2007 14:07:57 EDT

sumanth where are you you miss this all too important query forget about others...look at yourself in the eyes....where are YOU (and your ilk) in all this?

Comment by Sumanth

Tue, 16 Oct 2007 14:04:06 EDT

Temporal, Where are the human rights organisations? Where is NHRC? Where is NCW? Do they think of this poor woman? Because, poor have no rights in this country. The judicial system is only focused on urban India. There are no police reforms and hence people can buy police. ------- Here is my response to your very language: ------- Smallsquirell, you are a lost cause. No one here has ever said that they do not believe that there are female victims. We, the men and reasonable have tried to commiserate with women and understand. However, Feminists are wholly intent on tilting at windmills. Feminists have to create some kind of fake war in their heads to justify their mental sickness and probably some very very shady past behavior. What Feminists are engaging in is pathological from a psychiatric standpoint, and I actually just feel sorry for these women. I think all Feminists's comments should stand as a public record of how anti-male they are, so when people go looking for information they can see that Feminism today is not a social movement, but a front for angry and intolerant women. ---------------------------

Comment by Deepti Lamba

Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:57:39 EDT

I am too tired and I get Shantanu's point.

Comment by B Shantanu

Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:54:13 EDT

Temporal: Exactly...I have been watching this exchange with a mixture of exasperation, frustration and helplessness... Is this the best we have to offer to a victim who has suffered such horrible abuse - obfuscation, pedantry and sociological theories?

Comment by smallsquirrel

Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:52:42 EDT

temporal... I agree... let's stop giving sumanth a forum for his stupidity and instead see what we can do to help a REAL victim.

Comment by smallsquirrel

Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:51:09 EDT

sumanth, you are a lost cause. no one here has ever said that they do not believe that there are male victims. we have tried to commiserate with you and understand. however, you are wholly intent on tilting at windmills. you have to create some kind of fake war in your head to justify your sickness and probably some very very shady past behavior. what you are engaging in is pathological from a psychiatric standpoint, and I actually just feel sorry for you. I think sumanth's comments should stand as a public record of what SIFF stands for so when people go looking for information they can see that SIFF is not a legitimate organization, but a front for angry, impotent men. I also propose that we stop engaging him at this point. He is merely causing fights to cause them. He has proved that he doesn't listen to reason. Let's shut him and all his cronies right out. They admit they lie, why continue to give them a forum now that we know they are not interested in dialog. They are all incredibly sick people who are best left alone. Let's have a vote.. all in favor say "aye!"