Desicritics Comments on The Ram Sethu Issue: Some Racist and Xenophobic Tamils Do Not Represent all of South India

Comment by srikanth

Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:55:41 EST

I am a telugu and I am proud to be a dravidian. we stand firmly behind our tamilians brothers in opposing the northern folks language imposition. avestan(persian) is 90% sanskrit old latin/greek share thousands of root words with sanskrit. dravidian languages did not originate from sanskrit.

Comment by tamilguy

Wed, 3 Oct 2007 00:01:00 EDT

north indians are very racist too. in fact, the RSS mouthpiece, Organiser, used to make fun of dark south indians. in fact, many north indians think they are superior to south indians because they are lighter-skinned and are closer to europeans. it takes two to tango, you know.

Comment by Sirius

Thu, 20 Sep 2007 09:32:29 EDT

Nice paper tigers around here! Hooah!

Comment by balaji.s

Thu, 20 Sep 2007 06:36:55 EDT

Atlantean & all, Read the old Valmiki's Ramayana in sanskrit, all you blessed people will stop your mouths. It will depict Rama in full glory "eating horse meat and drinking alcohol". It was Valmiki who gave us Ramayan and those who have not read the Valmiki's original script should not speak about him and the aryan culture.

Comment by Atlantean

Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:04:42 EDT

Amrita, Yeah! DV even claims that it was the first newspaper in the world to have broken the "news" that the 9/11 attacks were planned and executed by Jews! You get to know a lot of things from DV :)

Comment by Samiyar

Wed, 19 Sep 2007 11:11:36 EDT

The people who workship Lord Shiva not commotting any violence activities. The people who workship Lord Muruga not committing any violence activities. The people who workship Ammans not commiting any violence activities. Then why the Ram Sevaks? Particularly promoted by Useless VHP and BJP fools?

Comment by Anony-fucking-mouse

Wed, 19 Sep 2007 04:17:42 EDT

Hehe...so what have you all to say about http://www.hinduunity.com/

Comment by kela

Wed, 19 Sep 2007 04:07:32 EDT

ok if you insist :)

Comment by smallsquirrel

Wed, 19 Sep 2007 04:04:20 EDT

oh for god sakes kela.... give it a fucking rest. that was brought up for a reason, and you know i do not give 2 shits about caste.... but go ahead... prove I am a bigot....

Comment by kela

Wed, 19 Sep 2007 03:55:12 EDT

Atlantean - dalits are not the first admirers of Hitler.Your icon and ultra -right wing hindutvaist BAL Thackeray is an ardent fan too

Comment by kela

Wed, 19 Sep 2007 03:51:56 EDT

she*

Comment by kela

Wed, 19 Sep 2007 03:51:07 EDT

Notice how SS always stresses on the fact the married a BRAHMIN,like their shit smells different.What a bigot

Comment by kela

Wed, 19 Sep 2007 02:01:04 EDT

Kumari Kandam is a Myth but flying monkeys building bridges not ? nice I have been to dalitvoice.org, a very good website with very nice interpretations,instead of attacking them can you prove whatever they say is wrong ?

Comment by Amrita

Wed, 19 Sep 2007 01:11:18 EDT

Man Singh - All Devis look like typical South Indian women. LOL!!! Good to know. Say them I said hi when next you meet them. Atlantean - re: dalit voice...you live and learn every day, huh? Particularly funny was the About Us section.

Comment by AnArch

Wed, 19 Sep 2007 00:06:03 EDT

Lord Rama won't be pleased by this:TN bus torched in Bangalore, 2 killed

Comment by Man Singh

Tue, 18 Sep 2007 18:50:20 EDT

The contents of dalit.org are being published and propagated in Abu Dhabi and malaysia by some muslim organisations with the name `O Hindus awake' as a tool to convert them to Islam. I have seen a booklet in Malaysia with a fake writer claiming to be a Research Scholar in some non existent University in B still using name Dr Chaturvedi(though he says still a student of Ph D). In Abu Dhabi it gives a fake adress of Al Ain city and a misprinted telephone number. I am giving here 15 points to prove that Modern Hinduism is of South Indian orgin and Aryan invasion is a mere ploy to divide n rule and to `demonise Brahmins' of India who always motivated Indians to oppose foreign invaders on intellectual platform. 1.Hindus Devas Ram Krishna Vinsnu are black in color curly hair like typical south India. 2. All Devis look like typical South Indian women. 3.Vedas describe Indian rivers, Indian flaura and fauna not of any foreign country 4. Conch shell(Shanks) used in Hindu worship is found in south India and not in North. 5. Sandal used in worship found in South India and not in North. 6. Roli (Kumkum) produced in South India and not in North. 6. Supari, etc all south Indian and not North. 8. Rice (South India) used in prayers not wheat produced in south. 9. Coconut produced in South India and not in North. 10. Sanskrit has alphabet of 53 letter similar in all Indian languages including Tamil while European languages have only 24-26 11. English have only 400 words common with Sanskrit, Tamil have more then 4000. 12. `Arya' in Sanskrit means a noble person who does his/her duty professionally and smartly irrespective of cast creed color or way of worship and never a race? 13. All rivers described in Vedas are Indian rivers. If they were foreinegers they might have described foreign rivers as Muslim invaders always described `zam xam ka Paani' 14. All Mountains described in vedic Literature are Indian. If they were foreigners they might have described foreign mountains. 15. All atronomical descriptions match with star positions on India 16. All trees, plants medicines etc described are of Indian origin Still do you believe the lie of Aryans invasion on India?

Comment by bummer

Tue, 18 Sep 2007 17:18:10 EDT

Your article is very harsh and racist

Comment by Aaman

Tue, 18 Sep 2007 12:21:24 EDT

Ruvy, that is thankfully a miniscule minority and will likely remain so

Comment by Ruvy in Jerusalem

Tue, 18 Sep 2007 11:19:09 EDT

Hmmm... I went to the Dalit site - there is more to the world than I realized...

Comment by Atlantean

Tue, 18 Sep 2007 11:15:05 EDT

Smallsquirrel, Hinjew... LOL! As I said in the article, most people in south India dont heed the call for a separate Dravidian nation and so, the Dravidian nationalist movement doesnt have much support outside Tamil Nadu. Even in Tamil Nadu, there are many who dont support it. Hinjews are welcome. They will be safe :) Soman, You say Ram is really irrelevant in South India as south Indians worship Murugan instead of Ram. This is exactly what I wanted to point out in my article. It is not south Indians but TAMILS who worship Murugan. Being from Andhra Pradesh, I can state that atleast in Andhra Pradesh, Murugan is a nonentity South India, Madrasi and Tamil Nadu are not synonymous terms. Journalists and "intellectuals" sitting in Delhi often fail to make this distinction. That there is a Aryan-Dravidian cultural distinction itself is a myth. There's a Punjabi, Gujarati and Bengali culture, there's a Telugu culture and Tamil culture. Punjabi, Gujarati and Bengali culture are vastly different. So are Tamil and Telugu culture. Cultural differences in India are based on ethnicity, not skin colour. Unfortunately, that is what the Dravidian nationalists and the Delhi school want us to believe. The confusion of the terms South Indian, Tamilian, Dravidian and Madrasi is similar to the use of "men of South Asian origin" as a blanket term (esp. in the British media) for people coming from India, Bangladesh, Pakistan and Sri Lanka. It does not convey the vast cultural differences between people from these countries. It is really sad and unfortunate that an artifical racial distinction that was conceived and propagated by British academics to justify colonial rule still persists in Indian academia and consciousness even after 60 years of independance.

Comment by Aaman

Tue, 18 Sep 2007 10:38:30 EDT

Please go ahead and prove it then, but not in this article space as that would be somewhat irrelevant.

Comment by soman

Tue, 18 Sep 2007 10:28:23 EDT

Ram sethu is truly irrelevant to south india in south people wont worship ram they worship Muruga. even murugan has mythological stories like lord ram, IN TAMILNADU NO ONE CAN TOUCH MURUGAN. no body can question his exsistence

Comment by smallsquirrel

Tue, 18 Sep 2007 10:14:56 EDT

yes, I am, and yes, I know... but wouldn't they not like him too?

Comment by Chandra

Tue, 18 Sep 2007 10:10:40 EDT

SS Aren't u married to a Kannadiga Brahmin? Atlantean refers to the Dravidan movement (Tamil Nadu).... rgds

Comment by smallsquirrel

Tue, 18 Sep 2007 08:55:32 EDT

atlantean... so what we're saying here is that mine is a marriage made in Dravidian Nationalist hell? (south indian brahmin marries jew and produces a hinjew?) I guess I won't get a pass for having a degree in dravidian languages, eh? what a mess.