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<title>Desicritics Comments on Sethusamudram Project - The Frauds are Revealed</title>
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<title>Comment by commonsense</title>
<link>http://desicritics.org/2007/06/18/000831.php#comment-332255</link>
<description>Narayanan:

&quot;&quot;There is enough proof that Jesus was a myth.&quot;&quot;

Perhaps. So? </description>
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<title>Comment by Narayanan</title>
<link>http://desicritics.org/2007/06/18/000831.php#comment-332237</link>
<description>There is enough proof that Jesus was a myth. also, Jesus being born to a virgin is at best a joke. No scientist worth his salt will say such a thing was possible with a straight face. That leaves Jesus&#039; birth like his death a myth. Also, if one traces the story of Adam and Eve, Eve and Adam had 3 sons. So if the rest of the generation was produced then one of Eve&#039;s son impregnated Eve. so there you go. From Adam to Jesus the story of christianity is a joke.</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 15:28:03 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by sakthisagaram</title>
<link>http://desicritics.org/2007/06/18/000831.php#comment-332224</link>
<description>I am sure Jesus Christ never existed, what is the proof for jesus existed its allcooked up story. he is a myth and all the Indians are basically Hindus including this author jo.... let him say his ancestors were the whites... hahahaha. whether jo existed??? is if he is existing today means RAMA sure existed 5-4th centruy. this BC is a crooked technique for making others fools so no BC business. There was no Christ at all all fake.</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 12:49:29 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by sakthisagaram</title>
<link>http://desicritics.org/2007/06/18/000831.php#comment-332222</link>
<description>RAM SETHU.. NEVER DARE TO TOUCH.. SONIA WILL BE OUT OF THE COUNTRY IF SHE SUPPORTS THIS BLUNDER.

1)Cho Balakrishnan, a Congress MLA of Ramanathapuram District went to break the coconut inaugurating Setusamudram project work. He had a heart attack and died the same evening. 

  

2)The Aquarium dreger of Dredging International of Belgium was engaged to break the Rama Setu. Its spud broke and the 50-tonne elephant like metal scrap is still lying on Sandbank 6 of Rama Setu unsalvaged. 

  

3)A crane named Hanuman was brought from Dredging Corporation of India in VIshakapatnam to recover the broken spud. The Hanuman crane which could lift upto 200 tonnes also broke and had to return. 

  

4)A dredger of DCI sank in the Bay of Bengal even before reaching Rama Setu. 




5)A Russian engineer and a foreign dredger were brought to continue the effort to break Rama Setu. The engineer broke both his legs and had to be hospitalized in Apollo Hospital. 

  

6)Tamilnadu Congress President Mr. Krishnaswami was attacked by unknown assailants on his way from Rama Setu towards Madurai. An attempted stabbing was foiled by the Rama medallion he wore on his gold chain. His family members attributed this saving of his life by Rama medallion. 
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<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 12:43:22 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Man Singh</title>
<link>http://desicritics.org/2007/06/18/000831.php#comment-332129</link>
<description>In supreme Court of India all parties have agreed that till date no acheological survey has been done for this site.

Age of stones has been estimated to be around 1.7 million years that almost matches with Lord Rama&#039;s time as per scriptures. 5200 years of Kaliyuga, 864000 rears of dwapar and 129600 years of Treta. Total time 1.296 Millions to 2 million years.

There is no technology available till date any where in teh world to evalauate a structure of 1.7 million years of age if it is man made or natural.

If anybody knows it please share and present if it has been used in assessing the Sethu&#039;s status.</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 19:49:26 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Sakthi Sagaram</title>
<link>http://desicritics.org/2007/06/18/000831.php#comment-332103</link>
<description>This jo is a christian propagater and never believe this fraud... We Hindus know where when and what we should approve a project India is a Hindu country Jai Bharat Mata! Jo you go back to Jeruselam or some christian countires and live.. Leave India as soon as possible.</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 16:11:15 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Neo</title>
<link>http://desicritics.org/2007/06/18/000831.php#comment-329318</link>
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<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 21:19:24 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Still</title>
<link>http://desicritics.org/2007/06/18/000831.php#comment-306952</link>
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<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 16:04:55 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Aron</title>
<link>http://desicritics.org/2007/06/18/000831.php#comment-306368</link>
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<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 06:53:32 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Aron</title>
<link>http://desicritics.org/2007/06/18/000831.php#comment-305965</link>
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<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 10:59:22 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Man singh</title>
<link>http://desicritics.org/2007/06/18/000831.php#comment-237661</link>
<description>Our forfathers have left very strong evidence of history. This eveidence is never dying and can be cross verified by anybody anywhere in teh world even if you are not archeologists or Historian.

that perfect evidence is Astronomical evidence.

For most of the event plenetry positions have been recorded and it can be back calculated when such combination of planets might have oocured.

It is an open challenge to Indian intellectuals to dig out the truth.

there is nothing to believe or be faithful. let&#039;s be scientific in approach but not negative towards our civilisational values.

based on such atronomica evidence we can find out when Rama , Krishna etc were born. even their horoscopes has been preserved to anybody&#039;s surprise.

Another issue here is attitude. Islam and Christinaity always focus on teh wordings of teh story.

Ourforfathers always focussed on moral of teh story. that&#039;s why while Islam n christianity insist on `only true God&#039; and `only word of God&#039; we have thousands of Gods and thousands of religious books but all contain the same moral of the story.

therefore let&#039;s stop weighhing Indian civilisation with scale of islam or christianity as they are altogather in different plane of thinking.</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 4 Jul 2007 18:26:45 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by theitinerantindian</title>
<link>http://desicritics.org/2007/06/18/000831.php#comment-237626</link>
<description>Well, I totally agree with you that we must make sure our history is written and portrayed the way it was. 

By the way, have you been to Kurukshetra, near Karnal? There is a good bit preserved there.

There are a number of vested interests who have been writing our history to suit their own ends. Since independence, much of that has been done by the forces you mention, only because they had the reins of government in their hands.

My point is, in portraying the other side of the story we still need to maintain balance. In doing so, the existence of Dwaraka and the existence of that city on the floor of the sea of the Gujarat coast should be cited, for example. But dont overdo it by insisting on things like UFOs and an alien race having come here to build and so on.

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<title>Comment by Man singh</title>
<link>http://desicritics.org/2007/06/18/000831.php#comment-237578</link>
<description>`respectable studies&#039;?

Studies are not important. Important is the attitude n intention by which studies are carried out.

Id studies are carried out to search the truth or to damage a civilisation intentionally.

Lions and Hunters have two diferent view point of the same event of Hunting n killing of lion.

Lions feels what a cruel person the killer n agresor is who is invading our Jungles so barbarically.

Hunters and their associates feel that they are so brave and can even hunt a lion.

We have to decide if we are with Hunters or we are with Lions. Then only our viewpoint will be reasonable.

Foreign invaders and their local associates are glorifying the hunters while Lions are expressing the cruelty of Hunters.

No scinetific investigations has been focussed till date on ramayan or Mahabharat Site.

You will find hardly any archeological reports on Hastinapur or Kurukshetra.

But yiou will find many history students doing research on how darupadi managed with 5 husbands at a time?

This is the state of affairs of Indian historical and archeological research. Most of their time n momney is wasted in carrying out studies to proove that :

1. Invaders were very good human beings
2. Even Aurangjeb the kilelr of great Gurus was charitable perosn.
. Pre Invader India was rubish.

We have to challenge the scenerio. This struggle ie between India VS foreign even today.

gangs of Mao, Marx, macauely and Mohamemd stamnd for foriegn.

Loyalist to India stand for Indian.

Lions wants to write their own history today otherwise world will belive what hunters wrote about them.</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 4 Jul 2007 10:36:31 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by theitinerantindian</title>
<link>http://desicritics.org/2007/06/18/000831.php#comment-237561</link>
<description>The quality of debate here is the same as witnessed in india&#039;s political landscape. 1. One group calls the other saffron brigade 2. The &quot;saffron&quot; guys kill their case by going to the unscientific extremes of their imagination. 3. Group one (&quot;pseudo-secularists?) rubbishes any scientific finding that supports Group two&#039;s contention; and accepts other similar findings so long as it suits them

The evolving nature of scientific enquiry allows both groups to quote respectable studies. (you will find conflicting theories on everything from evolution to dinosaurs, to the reasons for extinction of species and so on...) 
But soon everything degenerates into personal squabbles.

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<pubDate>Wed, 4 Jul 2007 09:45:56 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Die Hard</title>
<link>http://desicritics.org/2007/06/18/000831.php#comment-237520</link>
<description>Excellent encounter guys. I am no historian. But there are many legends, sources and historical sites in Sri Lanka which substantiate that there was a King Ravana. Any thoughts?  </description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 4 Jul 2007 08:14:22 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Man singh</title>
<link>http://desicritics.org/2007/06/18/000831.php#comment-232411</link>
<description>did anyone bothered to read naradpuran containing atronomical calculations accurate upto 88 digits?

Please do if you r a n honest truth seeker.

Look teh glimpse n glory of ancinet Indian wisdom. Even super computer today is 64 bit till date. scinetists are tryinbg for 128 bit though.</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 20:26:25 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Man singh</title>
<link>http://desicritics.org/2007/06/18/000831.php#comment-232409</link>
<description>Yes my freinds,

here is where honesty is needed.

I can understand the reaction when a human mind trained in particular way of thinking gets altogather fresh ideas. many times people dump such fresh ideas as `crap&#039;. I never mind.

I have question?

How many of you belive tajmahal was built by Shahjahan in the fond memory of his beloved wife Mumtaj?

Do you have any evidence for that other then a diary of Italina treveller who wrote the statement based on what people told him?

Mughal courts issue official orders even for construction of small mosques by their kings but such a huge strcuture was built n no officuial order for it? is it amazing? then why are we beliveing it?

Only because histrorians have brainwashed us what to belive and what not to believe.

If diary of an Italina travellers is considered as an evidence, then why not valmiki or Tulasidass and age old tradition of ramleela condidered as an evidence?

please think my freind? why we belive everything foreigners tell us and disbelive what our own people tell us? statement of angrej becomes beliveable and statement fo vedvyas not? Why? This is waht Slavish mentality is (I am sorry for any offence) but it is true.

let&#039;s be honest. let&#039;s use the same yardstick fro tajmahal and Ramsetu or Ram?

O Bharatputro, belive in Bharat n not in England. England contaminated your minds only to make you eprmanent slaves. Please.

Think depeer. Think why a diary of Italian is considered `evidence&#039; in tajmahal case while ancinet literature is not considered evidence in case of Ram or Ramsetu. Please think.

Hardy, I did not experimented usage of spritual powers in solving mathematical problems. I was too busy so far in enlightening the prople spritaully as `stress management&#039; is more important then Fermi&#039;s theoreem for humanity.

I p[romise I&#039;ll open a separate department for use of sprituality in solving mathematical problems. I honestly admit that I never used it so far in that area. I need a team and if you are good matehrmatician, I will be happy to team with you in this new area of research. most welcome to Team hardy.

let&#039;s finalise this issue first.

Ayodhya, saryu ganga yamuna, sangam, chitrkoot godavari, rameshwaram, lanka everything is here as evidence but we still say there is no evidence.

hastinapur, kurukshetra, indraprasth, dwarika , magadh mathura gokul everything is here. Dwarika city has been found submerged in teh sea. Srmadbhagwat describes that Lord Krishna told yadu elders that dwarika will submerge in sea after my leaving tyhis mrityulok.

Why we disbelive still. Go n check age of this submerged city of dwarika and Ruins fort of hastinapur. Please. Why archeologists are shy to go there? This commies government has stopped propejct of search of alignment of saraswati river and minister said its of no use to search a non existenece river? what a hypocricy?

Yes my freinds gangs of mao marx macauely and mohamemd will never allow within their powers that imperilaistic designs aimed at destruction of this timeless civilisation get recognition.

Those who love Bharat , its people and its civilisational values has to challenge thee theories established by imperialists and their local associates. 

let me repeat again: 

If a diary of a Italian travellor is considered as `evidence&#039; of tajmahal built by shahjahan, then why not literature written by our own people not consiederd the same?

Imperilaists wanted exactly this from our people that we should belive them n not our own brothers and sisters.

please think.
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<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 20:23:04 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Sujai</title>
<link>http://desicritics.org/2007/06/18/000831.php#comment-231196</link>
<description>All you have to do is allow a fool to talk for a while.  And wait for him to make a big fool of himself.  We just don&#039;t need to do anything.

Man Singh:

You write:
&lt;i&gt;Lord rama was born around 1.7 million years ago. If you assume one inch dust accumulated per yaer it becomes around 40 KM layer till date on earth. have any archeologist dig in upto 40 KM till date.&lt;/i&gt;

Where did you go to school? What do they teach there.

If I go with your assumptions, Earth, which is around 4.5 Billion years old, should have accumulated dust of 100,000 KM in height.

And before you start explain this- Earth&#039;s diameter is less than 13,000 KM. ;-)

Please! for the sake of mankind, just stop your gobbledygook. It is increasing the per capita of idiocy on this planet at an alarming rate.</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:28:16 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Hardy</title>
<link>http://desicritics.org/2007/06/18/000831.php#comment-231136</link>
<description>#42...Oh...Well i was just enquiring, collecting opinions. I thought you may have one.</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:52:43 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Hardy</title>
<link>http://desicritics.org/2007/06/18/000831.php#comment-231135</link>
<description>#42...Oh...Well i was just enquiring, collecting opinions. I thought you may have one.</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:51:30 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Hardy</title>
<link>http://desicritics.org/2007/06/18/000831.php#comment-231133</link>
<description>Man singh #37...You said...

&lt;i&gt;Anybody who is sincere in truth seeking, I can train them free in the scinece of how to see God and his Avatars. It is 6 years rigorous course in sprituality. It can make you eligible to see God and all his avaytars eliminating all your confusions.&lt;/i&gt; 

If it is possible just 6 years, it should also be possible to for such enlightened persons to come up with various proofs like Fermat&#039;s last theorem or solve Riemann hypothesis or Hilbert&#039;s problems as for such people these problems would be trivial by their standard. What are your claims?</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:49:31 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Chandra</title>
<link>http://desicritics.org/2007/06/18/000831.php#comment-231129</link>
<description>hardy

where did I say anything that you claim I said

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<title>Comment by Hardy</title>
<link>http://desicritics.org/2007/06/18/000831.php#comment-231115</link>
<description>Chandra...

I do not think that the advancement in sciences and technology that we see today is the consequence of an elevation in human genetic composition simply because mutations take much-much longer to settle in any useful set pattern.Is that true???

Even otherwise a cursory glance tells us that most of the advancements that have taken place have been work of handy few or work of serendipity.

Given that as background, one should not conclude that humans of distant past say 1 lac years old or so were sub-optimal(in intelligence) compared to the lot we have today. Thus why should we conclude that civilizations in that distant past would not have been more advanced (in the thousands of years they lived) than our own modern scientific civilization which is only few hundred years old?

		If modern scientific civilization is product of a set of few random people making breakthrough discoveries/inventions what theory rules out presence of such random but extremely brilliant people in the distant past or Am I missing something.
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<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:21:01 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Chandra</title>
<link>http://desicritics.org/2007/06/18/000831.php#comment-231087</link>
<description>Kannan

I think you have every right to believe Rama existed and that the Ramayana is a true story. However it is always advisable to differentiate between having evidence and not having evidence. 
As far as I am concerned, there is no evidence.  

Secondly, the Archeological evidence indicates the period when references to Ramayana were first indicated, not to the period when Ramayana actually took place (if at all). There is contoversy regarding this as well, some seem to date it as late as 200 AD. 

The constitution allows you to believe and do whatever you want. No problem. But in order to prove Adam&#039;s bridge was built by Ram we need solid evidence. We dont have that now.


cheers
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<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 12:43:42 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Deepti Lamba</title>
<link>http://desicritics.org/2007/06/18/000831.php#comment-231010</link>
<description>Better yet- met Mr.Banker?</description>
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