OPINION

Sunshine India: Encounter Killings, Torture and Custodial Deaths

October 11, 2006
C R Sridhar

The Ruling elite of our nation is in the grip of delusions of grandeur. The GDP growth rate of 8% is trotted out as a sign that India is on the threshold of becoming an economic superpower. A bright future awaits India with its revitalized economic policy of liberalization, privatization and an open door policy of attracting foreign capital. A new animal energy is infusing corporate India, which is headed for gigantic growth propelled by innovation and its ability to create anything from nanoparticles to giant rockets. It appears that India's tryst with destiny is unstoppable.

To the less gullible, the picture appears less rosy as India is in the throes of a shocking agrarian crisis fuelled by falling returns from agriculture coupled with debt and crop failure. More disturbing is the violence that the State inflicts on its citizens through encounter killings, police torture and custodial deaths.

Though the Left party has questioned the gains of the new economic policy formulated by the UPA government, there appears to be very little concern about gross human rights violations, which occur throughout the country. While there have been impassioned debates for the Washington consensus favouring MNC's in the media, there has been at best a token concern for the marginalized poor facing police brutality on a day to day basis. There is deafening silence in our media about the fact that though India has signed the Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment (CAT), there has been no ratification on the pretext that existing laws have adequate provisions to prevent torture, in addition to constitutional safeguards.

Respect for human rights is the sine qua non of any civilized society and the disrespect for human rights is inimical to civil liberties granted to its citizens by the state. By this standard, the Indian State lamentably fails and is a cause for concern for those who value civil liberties. The prevalence of torture and other human rights violations occurs both in communist and non-communist states in India. Both the states of West Bengal and Kerala have witnessed police brutality even with the Left parties in power.

The Amnesty International in its report dated 10-08-2001 about torture in West Bengal observed, "Police are being urged to use whatever means necessary to deal with crime and are often allowed to use torture as a substitute for investigations, while action is rarely taken against the perpetrators. This system of policing is having little if any impact on crime." CPI (M) leader Benoy Konar, defending police brutality once said, "It must be viewed whether police is carrying out torture with a correct aim or an incorrect aim...In a class divided society, the police has the duty of carrying out repression.... You [journalists] have the pen in your hands, the police has the stick." Hence, it would be a mistake to view human rights abuse from an ideological perspective.

The wide prevalence of encounter deaths or extra-judicial killings at the hands of the police has been documented by human rights organizations and remains a part of our dark history in post independent India. A study conducted by the Asia Pacific Human Rights Network noted that encounter killings were not isolated incidents but occurred throughout India. They are part of a "deliberate and conscious state administrative practice" for which successive Indian governments must bear responsibility. Indeed, successive Indian governments have adopted a de facto policy sanctioning extra-judicial killings by members of the police forces, army and security personnel.

The most horrific examples include the operations against Naxalite movements in West Bengal, Andhra Pradesh and the operations against Punjab extremists. Tamil Nadu and Kerala committed the excesses of encounter killing during the days of Emergency. The Vimadlal Commission took the lid off so-called encounters in Andhra Pradesh during the mid-1970s. Uttar Pradesh is noted for it's encounter deaths and this has assumed alarming proportions in recent times. The paramilitary operations in Jammu & Kashmir, Manipur and Assam cause grave concern as human rights activists report wide spread instances of encounter killings, rape and torture of militant suspects.

The complicity of State and Central governments in encounter killings could be gleaned by the fact that they do not vigorously conduct prosecution of the guilty nor is the investigation thorough to bring the guilty to book. The National Human Rights Commission has not proved very effective in checking encounter killings, as it's recommendations are not implemented by the State and Central governments. The guidelines issued by the NHRC in matters regarding encounter killings are rarely followed. The long delays in courts in prosecuting the guilty police personnel creates a climate of impunity for such crimes to flourish. The governments also reward policemen or paramilitary personnel, which actually encourage encounter killing. The compensation paid to the surviving members of the victims murdered by the police personnel remains a pittance.

The use of torture and third degree methods against suspects in police lockups remains standard operating procedure in post-Independence India. Human Rights organizations note that torture is used against secessionist groups, against suspects belonging to the poorer sections of our society for extracting confessions and bribes and also used as extra-legal punishment (teach you a lesson).

In areas such as Jammu & Kashmir, there exist a number of detention cells where militant suspects are beaten and electric torture is meted out as routine punishment and to extract confessions or information. The methods of torture vary. For instance, in Assam, Jammu & Kashmir and Punjab (particularly in areas where the Punjab police or Punjab paramilitary units operate) dislocation of ball and socket of the suspect appears to be the preferred mode of torture. Sometimes the choice is more eclectic with a judicious combination of aeroplane treatment (tying the hands of the suspect behind his back and suspending him over a beam, leading to shoulder dislocation), electric torture with cattle prod and roller treatment (crushing the muscles of the suspect with a wooden log being rolled on his leg). Of course, beating of suspects with belts and lathis is standard fare in most police lockups. Human Rights groups have recorded cases involving rape and sexual humiliation of woman suspects.

While the reported cases of custodial deaths are increasing in India, statistics are difficult to come by, as there is government apathy to transparency. However, on 12th May 2006, The Indian Evidence (Amendment) Bill, 2006 was introduced in the Rajya Sabha with a view to curb custodial deaths. The amendment provides the presumption that when a suspect dies in police custody it is presumed that the police have caused the death and the onus of proof rests on the policemen to prove their innocence. While the amendment is certainly a welcome change in official attitude towards custodial deaths, it remains to be seen whether it would be effectively implemented in the courts.

Human Rights activists have also warned against Anti-terrorism and security laws in India as facilitating human right abuse by primarily targeting lower castes and minority communities. The security laws abuse specially targeted groups by prolonging detention without trial and by inflicting torture, which is responsible for custodial deaths. On September 25, 2006, the Committee on International Human Rights of the New York City Bar Association released a report, Anti-Terrorism and Security Laws in India, calling on the Indian government to limit its application of anti-terrorism laws. The report notes "Attentiveness to these human rights concerns is not simply a moral and legal imperative, but also a crucial strategic imperative. As the Supreme Court of India has recognized, 'terrorism often thrives where human rights are violated' and '[t] he lack of hope for justice provides breeding grounds for terrorism.'"

The report chillingly concludes that the sweeping powers given to the authority in such enactments as TADA [Terrorist and Disruptive Activities (Prevention) Act], POTA [Prevention of Terrorism Act], and UAPA [Unlawful Activities (Prevention) Act], were used predominantly not to prosecute and punish actual terrorists, but rather as a tool that enabled pervasive use of preventive detention and a variety of abuses by the police, including extortion and torture. Another unpopular act called the Armed Forces (Special Powers) Act has been sharply criticized for its 'oppression and high-handedness' by the Justice Jeevan Reddy Committee and has asked for the scrapping of this draconian law. This act (AFPSA) was the rallying point of widespread protests in Manipur and in other parts of North East as it offered immunity to the army personnel guilty of indiscriminately killing innocent people.

Legislation to eradicate torture, encounter killings and custodial deaths may be effective up to a point and may decrease human rights abuse marginally. But laws need the backing of robust public opinion to be fully effective. Here, Sunshine India is seriously flawed. The middle class and the upper class seem to be totally self-absorbed in greed creed and its consumerist pretensions. Moreover, there is wide acceptance of 'tough police tactics' by the middle and upper classes. The issues of liberalism, values for a just and humane society do not resonate well with this class. Instead there is, in the words of Praful Bidwai, a social commentator, "growing illiberalism and intolerance... lack of moral clarity among large sections of middle class on issues of justice, fairness, pluralism, secularism and other constitutional values, leave alone compassion for the underprivileged."

With public opinion fragmented, human rights violations would continue unchecked with the brunt of abuse borne by the marginalized poor. A prospect, which we must admit, bodes ill for our Republic.

Sridhar is a Koshy's regular, a Tinto Brass fan, and a cynical Bangalorean
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#1
Apsi
October 11, 2006
01:41 PM

Before quoting Kashmir, meet a poor soldier or policeman from Kashmir, where are their human rights?

The question is not 'Is the Police brutal?' The question is rather, 'Why Is the Police brutal?'

#2
Sujai
URL
October 11, 2006
02:19 PM

Sridhar:
A good article. It is important to highlight some of the atrocities committed by police in the name of maintaining security (against whom?)

(I reproduce a commment that I wrote:)
When Army rules a place, brutalities are bound to happen. Nobody likes to be under Army rule. When I was young, I used to hear people cry from police stations- they were one of most horrible cries I ever heard in my life- of men in extreme pain. When these men were let out, they could not walk- and were completely beaten up - they were like pulp. The women had to carry them home- most often they were poor people from the nearby villages who were being forced to confess. We would know some of the workers who would suddenly disappear only to reappear completely beaten up- they never smiled after that and were always lost- looking into space. Our place was under Section 144, and there was CRPF, because we had naxalites in our region. While we were growing up, we were told to 'never get close to any police man'. We were always afraid of police in our region. If there was a shootout, which was common during those time, we were adviced to 'run towards naxalites - they may spare you, but if you run towards police, you can be sure you will be killed.'
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I agree with you on your comment on POTA, TADA, UAPA. It is used more as a tool to oppress people than save anyone.

Most Indians condone such police and Army actions because they have never faced it. Most people, who have not done anything for Kashmiri Pandit, show sympathy for them on these blogs. Most people decry naxalism, but they do not realize that it is the only saving force against police brutalities in those regions, and that the oppression by landlords, who joined hands with police, was one of the reasons for the birth of naxalism. Once we met a senior police officer (DIG) at a dinner. I asked, 'When do you think Naxalism would die out?' He answered, 'How can you say that having live here. As long as there is oppression in our region, Naxalism is going to stay.'

This is not to legitimize Naxal's actions. But unless we find the reasons why it perpetuates, understand why people sympathize and support them, we will never be able to solve it. And police brutalities are not the right answer- it will only increase support for naxalites in the backward regions. People read newsreports and say- 'Look, people are now tired of naxalism'. People in rural regions do not read those reports nor contribute to it- they continue to support and take refuge in naxalism- that's why it is spreading, starting from Telangana, now into North Karnataka and Chattisgarh. The only thing common in these regions is that they are all backward people ruled by rich landlords in cahoots with police force. Land reform movement never took place in these regions.

Economic development and empowerment is the only solution to root out such problems- not brute force.

#3
balaji
URL
October 11, 2006
02:48 PM

the problem with police in india is the same problem with the bureaucrats.

the police was the arm of the british to coerce the public into submission.

the bureaucracy was another instrument. imagine a bureaucrat (most of them) thinking in terms of people friendly policies!

the mind-set of the police is that they should serve the 'political masters' who have replaced the british. not that people are their masters - for they get paid from the taxes that people pay!

while many cry hoarse on the need for economic reforms and bemoan the 'slow-down' of reforms - we need to fight for reforms in bureaucracy and police!

unless the the police is reformed and gets a people friendly orientation, no ordinary citizen can feel safe from potential 'police terrorism'.

security, and people-friendly security is as important.





#4
Atlantean
URL
October 11, 2006
03:11 PM

My position:

There ARE human rights violations in India. There is no strong enforcement of laws which deal with them and police officers act with impunity. That is sad and something HAS to be done.

That said, on to Part 2. Read below.

"Before quoting Kashmir, meet a poor soldier or policeman from Kashmir, where are their human rights?"

Are you kidding! Do you mean soldiers and policemen in Kashmir, Kashmiri Pandits and Shias are also humans!

1. Policemen, who also have families and kids and are also human by the way, who are repeatedly attacked by naxalites in Andhra Pradesh dont seem to gain ANY sympathy from the socalled "human rights" brigade.

2. The naxalites, it seems, are fighting for "development." And how do they fight for development? With GUNS! With BOMBS! With ROCKETS!

I was talking to a teenager who was asking me "Arent rockets and guns very expensive?"

I said "Oh yes! Very expensive. Each bullet costs thousands of Rupees. That much money can supply a whole family for months with foodgrain."

He said "It must take a lot of intelligence, courage and energy as well to make such audacious and deadly attacks on police and civilians right?"

I said "Of course. So what are you getting at?"

He replied "If they have SO much money to buy so many guns, make so many bombs, buy so many bullets, if they have so much energy and intelligence, why cant they use all their obviously ample resources for development by constructing dams, roads, irrigation projects to help the poor instead of spending all that on bombings and killings!! Beats me!"

2. The fact that all those "statistics" that funds for all these human rights organisations come from countries, which themselves have dubious human rights records (CIA/MI6 detention and torture) and dont cover human rights violations of their own countries makes them less believable.

3. The author claims:

"While the reported cases of custodial deaths are increasing in India, statistics are difficult to come by, as there is government apathy to transparency."

If the statistics are difficult to come by, then how come people sitting on their fat backs thousands of KM across surrounding the Atlantic munching popcorn and guzzling watery beer always come up with socalled "statistics"? Where the hell did those statistics come from? How did they come to know? Did they use spy satellites?

70,000 people killed in Kashmir by Amnesty International. The next thing Amnesty will claim is that the earth is flat and of course, the bleeding heart liberals, the pseudosecular, the pseudointellectuals, the Pakis will lick each and every drop of it without ever questioning the scientific validity of Amnesty's exaggerated nonsense. Actually, all it needs is common sense to realize that Amnesty cannot produce reliable figures about HRVs in India unless the Indian government has a good stats program when it comes to HRVs.

As usual, the arguments of the human rights activits boomerang and strike 'em back in the face like thunder!

"Here, Sunshine India is seriously flawed. The middle class and the upper class seem to be totally self-absorbed in greed creed and its consumerist pretensions. Moreover, there is wide acceptance of 'tough police tactics' by the middle and upper classes. The issues of liberalism, values for a just and humane society do not resonate well with this class. Instead there is, in the words of Praful Bidwai, a social commentator, "growing illiberalism and intolerance... lack of moral clarity among large sections of middle class on issues of justice, fairness, pluralism, secularism and other constitutional values, leave alone compassion for the underprivileged."

Typical Marxist bullshit! - blaming it all on the middle class. The middle class or the rich are the reasons for all problems, even human rights violations, according to this cynical Bangalorean and the Marxist pain-in-the-ass, Praful Bidwai. His ideology and thoughts are an anachronism in the 21st century. While he falsely accuses the Indian middle class of "growing illiberalism and intolerance," does he realize that the school of thought by which he swears and lives by is inherently immoral and the very antithesis of liberalism and tolerance?

But then, you cant deal in reason with commies. They spoiled this country. They have stifled the intelligence and creativity of the people for so long and as a result, this country isnt what it should be, with its vast resources, enterprising and intelligent people. Alas, they are still out there splashing newspapers around the country with writings motivated by their evil cult!

#5
Sumanth
URL
October 11, 2006
05:03 PM

Human Rights abuses? Where? In India?

I do not believe it. Indian Judiciary and Police are the best in the world.

When there are so many Human Rights people feeding on "funds" voraciously, how can there be human rights abuses in India?

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If there are human rights abuses, what the people are doing about it? Armchair social activism.

Its easy to blame police, politicians, terrorists and communists.

Are not the educated "logical, rational" fools equally reponsible for running away from responsibility towards society.

#6
doubting thomas
October 12, 2006
12:27 PM

Ah yes Atlantean the great Indian Middle class. i dip my pen in vitriol as i write these lines:
Indian Middle class- a class having the largest number of self deluded fools who fritter away their pathetic lives chasing consumer dreams with overdrawn credit cards.
does that ring a bell Atlantean?

#7
Atlantean
URL
October 12, 2006
01:53 PM

Doubting Thomas,

That comment of yours just awoke the doctor in me. I'm sorry to tell you, you've just been diagnosed with Schizophrenia.

Schizophrenia is a psychiatric diagnosis that describes a mental disorder characterized by impairments in the perception or expression of reality and/or by significant social or occupational dysfunction. A person experiencing untreated schizophrenia is typically characterized as demonstrating disorganized thinking, and as experiencing delusions or auditory hallucinations.

Good luck kiddo! Pray to Allah for mercy. I'll pray too :)

#8
sridhar
October 13, 2006
01:54 AM

Sumanth,

The human right violations in North East region of India has been documented by an eminent jurist and an retired judge of the Supreme court of India. In the 147 pages report Justice B.P.Jeevan and the other committee members have asked for the repeal of the Armed Forces Act for its gross abuse. In the name of curbing terrorism many innocent people were killed.The Union Minister for Home Mr. Shivraj Patil has declined to make this report public.What are we hiding?

The Tribune in its online edition said 'ONLY the other day the National Human Rights Commission (NHRC) awarded compensation to the families of 109 persons killed and clandestinely cremated by the Punjab police between 1984 and 1994. Although the balm of relief is confined to the victims of police atrocities in Punjab, the observations made by the NHRC in the course of this order has a wider bearing, and should serve as a salutary warning to other states too, to end forthwith this practice of extra-judicial killings. It is not without good reason that the NHRC has come down heavily on state governments resorting to "encounter deaths" in the guise of combating terrorism. In fact, encounter killings predate the phenomenon of terrorism and have a long history.'

R.K. Raghavan who was the Director of CBI said'We, in India, are only too familiar with numerous instances of police excesses that reveal a low regard for human rights. The Bhagalpur blindings in Bihar and the Rajan episode in Kerala several decades ago showed the police in extremely poor light. The recent Tura (Garo Hills) incident in which a group of students were killed in police firing is possibly an example of excessive police reaction to a public agitation. What makes the situation in India qualitatively different from that in many other countries is the use of questionable and unlawful force within the confines of police stations against crime suspects for extracting information. While the open display of a tendency to indulge in needless violence in our streets is condemnable, such highhandedness away from public glare and at police facilities that are out of bounds for non-members of the police is nothing short of barbaric.

Policemen, especially those in the Indian Police, need to be convinced that using force against those in their custody is downright immoral and indefensible. What is appalling is that there is a substantial segment in society the world over that condones police violence as an effective means of maintaining order in society and keeping the crime rate low. When you go into the genesis of police misbehaviour, I would rate this as a dominant factor that encourages a majority of policemen to employ questionable methods of operation without any inhibition or fear of the law. There is precious little that any one of us can do to check this dangerous philosophy of policing that places premium on the use of third degree. What, however, we can do is to fine-tune the two-pronged policy of deterrence and education to prevent policemen from resorting to methods that are not sanctioned by law or by the canons of civilised conduct.'

Most of the individuals(around 14000) detained in Punjab under TADA only less than one per cent were actually convicted.The rest were let off on the ground that the evidence was extremely flimsy.

we do not serve the interests of our country unless we have free and frank discussion on this subject.

#9
doubting thomas
October 13, 2006
02:18 AM

Atlantean,
my..my you are truly a renaissance man.First as a scribbler of bad prose and secondly as a budding head shrink.
Your definition of Schizophrenia was interesting and it helped me to understand you better.Your anti- commie rant tells me you are a full blown Schizo. 'Mental disorder characterized by impairments in the perception or expression of reality and/or by significant social or occupational dysfunction.'Does this again ring a bell Atlantean especially when you read your own prose?
regards and take care of yourself.

#10
Atlantean
URL
October 13, 2006
12:03 PM

When I see a dog barking at me meaninglessly and without provocation, I just take pity, smile and move on :)

#11
Anand Menon
URL
October 13, 2006
04:17 PM


The strong arm tactics adopted by the State have a definite pattern to them.I say State because we cannot talk of torture without mentioning the Police in the same breath and blatant torture is a hallmark of an institutionalised Police State. They are usually used against people who take to petty crime,who are not aware of the law,people too poor to defend themselves,and more and more frequently against political opponents,dissidents or groups whose views are at variance with those of the State etc.All this talk about Police reforms has only remained talk.Having been rapped several times on the knuckles by various human rights groups,courts and commissions of enquiry have made no difference to the stand adopted by the State.Essentially if one has to understand torture one has to also understand the machinations of power and control especially over a weaker human being. When it comes to torture the State through the Police is reluctant to relinquish one of its primary weapons namely fear and control exercised through fear.The policy of the State is simply a variation of one of Roman Emperor Caligula's favourite themes...."oderint dum metuant" -- "let them hate so long as they fear".

After reading the article ,one is reminded of the sardar joke which goes a bit like this....

"Three police squads , The Scotland Yard police , The NY Police and the Punjab Sardar brigade contest for the best police force award . The judges lead them to the Gir forest of India and assign them the mission. He who captures an adult Lion and brings it back alive in the fastest time will be adjudged the best.
First the Scotland Yard Police go into the forest and come back in half an hour with a Lion all tied up. Then the NY police go in and come back in 15 minutes with a tied up lion. Lastly the sardar brigade goes in. 15 minutes , half an hour , one hour .... and still no sign of our sardars .The judges give up and decide to search for them. After some searching , they find the Sardars all excitedly yelling near a tree . On closer inspection they find the Sardars have tied up a big bear to a tree and are wacking the shit of it.... and all of them are shouting , "Bol tu Sher Hai ! Saala Bol ! tu Sher Hai !! ..."



#12
sridhar
October 14, 2006
01:34 AM

Sujai,
I entirely agree with you. Thanks for your comments.

#13
Sanjay
October 15, 2006
03:10 AM

Let's take a look at custodial deaths that the Indian Left don't like to talk about:

http://www.protv.ro/filme/exclusive-footage-of-chinese-soldiers-shooting-at-tibetan-pilgrims.html#4265

#14
balaji
URL
October 15, 2006
02:10 PM

Sanjay

the question is do you agree to police or state brutality, irrespective of chinese, russian, north korean, iran or other 'axis-of-evil' and the famous bete-noire pakistan.

the question again is Indian police brutality should it be condoned or condemned?

personally, i detest and protest any violence. including state violence.

or is it ok if the other jokers - communists, CIA, KGB or komintang did/do it and there is nothing wrong in Indian state doing it?

what's your informed view?

in my view it's not tit for tat or whom are we aping. the question is whether it is right or wrong.

#15
doubting thomas
October 15, 2006
11:39 PM

Atlantean
i suppose the dogs are safe barking at you.What would happen to the poor things if they bit you? Do you think they would get rabies?
Anxiously yours,
doubting thomas

#16
Joe
October 17, 2006
05:47 PM

Quoting Praful Bidwai..need say no more. the Frontline gang with its constant tiring ideological rant and rave!!!
Do you lawyer Sridahr have the courage and conviction to take up these cases??? Leisurely intellectualism is fine!!1

#17
sridhar
October 18, 2006
01:15 AM

Dear Joe,
Level with me. Are you sure you read Frontline?
you appear to be mentally challenged.

#18
Bihari
URL
October 18, 2006
01:33 AM

Now that everyone has been called mentally challenged in some form or the other can we get back to the topic at hand?


The article seems to address the issue that middle class loves to skirt around- our human rights record is terrible (and then in the same breath); have you seen my new Camry?;)

#19
Kim
URL
October 19, 2006
06:00 AM

Hi Sridhar, armchair intellectual, your intellectual pretensions are out!! On what legitimate grounds you can call someone 'mentally challenged', who are you some savant and its seems to me more like a college canteen showman!! Im very disappointed that you resort to such cheap tactics like personal slander when I have been reading your article with highest regard, why cant you explain the earnest frustration with frontline gang rant and rave, though I disagree with anything called 'Frontline' gang, who are you to pass edicts like join the ranks of Joe!!! You think you are the next best mind, writing sardonic articles...pathetic!! If you cant take criticism then should stop writing. Im very disappointed with your cheap slants when you could have engaged in the idea of protest being debased by some writers.

#20
Joe
URL
October 19, 2006
06:17 AM

Im schocked at your resorting to offensive remarks like 'mentally challenged', FELLOW BLOGGERS this calls for a boycott of Sridhar's writings. I do not think hav emade any offensive remark about him but the 'Frontline' gang in terms of their rhetoric which is so often laced with agitation aqnd protest. There is no consistency in some of their stance. Hello Mr. Sridhar protest intellectual, dont you have the tenacity to take on a coherent point, when I mentioned if you were willing to put yourself on the chopping block by representing some of these cases!! Go learn your language well, before you use words like 'mentally challenged' atleast I have a mind, and Iam indeed mentally challenged with psuedo intellectuals like you!!!

#21
curious
October 19, 2006
11:36 PM

Guys lay off will ya? To be fair to the author none of the insulting feedback to his article has addressed the real issues at hand. Instead there is name calling like 'Marxist bullshit' 'Frontline gang' 'armchair intellectual' etc. He called a spade a spade and mounted a defense of his sources drawn from supreme court decisions, reports of jurists and retired supreme court judges etc. When we play with fire can we complain of burnt fingers?

We have lowered the standards of debate by attacking the author personally and not his argument.

And guys it is better to be an armchair intellectual rather than sit in the armchair drooling over comic books.

#22
Joe
URL
October 22, 2006
07:49 PM

Im sorry 'curious' if it all came across as personal attacks, unrelated to the topic. Its the vaulted author who launched from his high grounds attack on mentally challenged like us...

But how long can I as a concerned citizen of this planet put up with cheap sensationalist rhetoric of Indian intelligentsia? Their only qualification is protesting rabble rousers, today we can only be thankful to some of our leaders who kept their sanity and not succumb to cheap protest gibberish of this intellectual gang!! What coherent arguement you want talk about, kissing acts of terror!!! Do we not ever acknowledge the challenge of our security forces...oh lets blame America for all our ills!!!
Lets all be naked and smoke pot and sing 'medicrioty sunshine' the 68gang, lets all be anti-everything called progress!! Unemployed bums sitting in cafes reading Sartre, rubbish post-modernism, illicit sex and all that...lets sing hey oh, liberal rubbish!!! Let the terror gang take over with its guns and we shall protest...hey charlie you will be happy now!!!You are wrong, armchair intellectuals do more harm with their insinuating nonsense than reading comics...lets all go down the drain anyway!!! I love the ones in India who can smack these intellectuals and I lack the guts...I only write in Blogs for educated nitwits who only argue over a good cup of coffee!!! What great point is it to ignore the vicious sting of terrorism, attacks on civilians, but hey lets all sit in cafe's and smoke pot!!! I call for a ban on all this frivolity!!!

Good luck with the decadence...Im tired and angry and we need some serious action right now!!!!

I resign and write no more about this rubbish protest literature!!! Oh why did I have to face irresponsible 1968 generation of post-modernism and utter sexual liberation!! the worst creed is Indian 1968 generation, hollow, rebel without any cause, why dont they retire, all close to 60s or pensioned off for poor performance and then turn avant-garde intellectuals!!

Im sick and tired and good bye!!

#23
Joe+Kim BUSTER
URL
October 22, 2006
10:36 PM

[EDITED - LET'S END THE NAME CALLING]

#24
curious
October 23, 2006
01:35 AM

Dear Joe,
We promise you that we shall not go to coffee shops, smoke pot, have sex and read sartre. Happy?

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