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Pati, Patni Aur Woh

July 24, 2006
Sakshi Juneja







A happy family - Nagma, Mrs. Ravi Kishen and Ravi Kishen

So finally after weeks of speculation and rumors, Bhojpuri superstar Ravi Kishen has come clean about his (close) relationship with fellow co-star Nagma. Unlike other movie industry actors, this guy seems pretty chilled out about discussing his extra-martial affair with the media and the entire nation.

This is what he said to Mumbai Mirror's Mr. Subhash Jha -

Ravi is in a confessional mood. He opens up about his relationship with Nagma. "My friends and family are aware of my relationship with Nagma. My wife has accepted Nagma as a beautiful part of my life. I don't lie to my wife about her. She's gracious enough to accept that there can be a special relationship between a man and woman outside marriage. I'm not the first nor the last married man to have an intimate relationship with another woman?," he says.

Ravi also confesses that there's no commitment for the future between him and Nagma. "Nagma accepts that I wouldn't leave my wife and children," he says. "We're living in the moment. We don't even talk about the future. In fact Nagma comes home and often cooks along with my wife."

Ravi met Nagma through her father, who's his friend. "I met her the first time fourteen years ago. I'm very proud of my friendship with Nagma and would never demean it by hiding it. We're two crazy sensitive wacko souls. It's a sangam of so many feelings. Our bonding gives us a great comfort level on the sets. We create something beautiful on film," he says.

"I respect Nagma for being a self-made woman," he adds. "Every penny she owns is hard-earned. I'd never do anything to make her feel small."

"I'd never do anything to endanger my career either," he says. "I've slogged for years to get here. Domestic harmony is very important for a man to be successful professionally. My wife has full faith in me. And I'd never let her down. In fact she encourages me to sign films with Nagma. 'Your friendship shows in your work,' she says. My wife doesn't think of Nagma as a home-breaker."

Ravi claims that theirs is not a relationship based on selfish interests. "I'm very happy with her and she's very happy with me. We laugh and joke together. We share everything under the sun and moon. There are no secrets between us," he says.

Well on one hand Ravi Kishen should be given some brownie points for accepting his love affair with actress Nagma and also for being open about it to his wife and kids. But one can't help but wonder, isn't Mr. Ravi Kishen exaggerating a wee-bit too much at least when it comes to his wife's approval of the other women. I mean as far as I have seen, heard and read; no self-respecting women (or man for that matter) would tolerate their partner going about painting the town red with someone else. If it was in fact an allowable thing in relationships then the number of divorces and breakups would decrease considerably and not to forget the number of family-court lawyers filling for un-employment benefits.

But seriously the whole yapping about 'my wife has accepted that there can be a special relationship between a man and woman outside marriage or she comes home and cooks with my wife or my wife doesn't think of Nagma as a home-breaker' - just sounds too good to be true.

I can imagine thousands of men lining up outside Ravi Kishen's house dying to ask him where they can find a woman with same (sharing) beliefs like his wife's for themselves.

In my opinion there can be only three reasons why Mrs. Ravi Kishen is playing along with this charade of a social institution called marriage; Kids and financial security, she is having an affair as well or she is way too much in love with him. But I guess we people can only speculate from our end, the truth shall remain only with the people involved.

As for talking about Ms. Nagma, well she seems to have some sort of soft corner for married men. Remember her previous fling with cricketer ex-captain Sourav Ganguly and I think there was one South-Indian actor as well; though none of these relationships were publicly acknowledged.

Anyways for the time being everyone seems to be happy being part of the triangle, plus as an old saying goes, "Jab Miya, Biwi or Woh raazi to kya karega Blogazee".

Just one question though before I sign off - Would same kind of confession be accepted by our society if it was made by a woman?

Saakshi O. Juneja is an active blogger, feminist and overboard dog lover. Currently working as a Business Development Manager for a sportswear manufacturing company in Mumbai, India. Did graduation in Marketing & Advertising from Sydney, Australia. As far as blogging is concerned...is a complete Blog-a-holic.
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#1
Deepti lamba
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July 24, 2006
12:49 PM

Beautiful part of his life - my arse. He is buttering both sides of the bread and getting away with it. But if its okay with his wife then who are we to say anything. Maybe they do have an open relationship or as you said its all about money and kids.

#2
Amrita
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July 24, 2006
01:07 PM

good grief!
as for the question at the end, have you ever seen the movie Arth? Shabana Azmi asks the same question of Kulbhushan Kharbanda and he has the answer. but i think at a certain point, from what i've heard from other people who've been deeply madly in love, you're willing to work through the infidelity if your relationship is important and meaningful enough. but to have another woman come in and be a part of your family life... Creepy McTeli!

#3
Righta
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July 24, 2006
01:31 PM

Well history is not devoid of precedents of this kind. If a woman had a confession this sort!.... well history is not devoid of that too.

"Society" will always have two views even if u kill your mother!. But why fuss over someones sensibilities as long as its not affecting the larger public interest.

#4
temporal
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July 24, 2006
03:05 PM

hmmm...larger public interest?...let me check with M... but if somethiing happens to me Righta bud my blood will be on your hands

#5
temporal
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July 24, 2006
03:18 PM

saks:

Would same kind of confession be accepted by our society if it was made by a woman?

would you settle for three possibilities?

1: no!

2: if the biwi #1 has a live in paramour

3: contextuallly yes: e.g. M lives with three men...happily;)

#6
Amrita
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July 24, 2006
11:26 PM

i hope M boxes your ears! :D

#7
Preeti
July 24, 2006
11:58 PM

MCP in his real get up!

Must say he has guts and as of now he is the most envied married guy in India.

What a source of inspiration to the rest...!!

#8
Wasif
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July 25, 2006
01:19 AM

Woman's infidelity is glorified as seeking sexual and emotional satisfaction outside marriage.

There was an article in 'Rogue' (a supplement of TOI)around a month back. The featured women were confessing that they are seeking their emotional/sexual needs outside their marriage while at the same time they loved with their husband.

It makes headlines only when men come up with such confession.

#9
Sakshi
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July 25, 2006
01:42 AM

Wasif - I believe what you have said but after visiting your blog and reading "Stings of 21st Century Women"...I have my doubts. :)

Would be great if you could provide a link to the article that you have mentioned.

As for talking about headlines - Dude (if I may call you so), nothing could be bigger than a women openly coming out and claiming that she is a family women and her husband UNDERSTANDS her relationship with her current fling.

The question here is not about women/men having extra martial affairs...the point to think about here is whether women would also be treated the same way as Mr. Kishen, if she came out in the open about her relationship outside marriage. Moreover would her husband be still be there by her side.

In a country where a women if even talks about sex before marriage is subjected media and public harassment...I really doubt she would ever be allowed to make such an confession.

#10
Wasif
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July 25, 2006
03:12 AM

Sakhsi,

Society is unfair to both men and women, but we tend to be objective only when its unfair to women, and if u talk of legal system, its only unfair to men.

Matuknath Chaudhary, the professor from Patna, was disgraced and had his face blackened by the public when he confessed about his affair. He was even suspended by the university.

Had it been his wife in his place, would she have been meted with the same treatment?


#11
Sakshi
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July 25, 2006
04:13 AM

Wasif - I agree society is unfair to both the sexes. There are many cases where the legal system favored men instead of actually verifying who the real victim is.

I would refrain from mentioning Chaudhary case cause frankly it seemed to be more of a media gimmick than anything else. Did you see inspite of what was happening all the three...where mostly smiling infront of the camera?

And if it was his wife...then in most probability she would have be chopped and made into mutton cutlets.

#12
Wasif
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July 25, 2006
04:29 AM

"And if it was his wife...then in most probability she would have be chopped and made into mutton cutlets"

Preposterous and wishful thinking.

#13
Kush
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July 25, 2006
07:29 AM

wasif uncle, certain thing you have to still understand in 21st century and the Proposed Domestic violence bill where not only one "Woh", 1000 "Woh" had been made legal.

Bigamoney is a rewarding option for Indian women and the same will be a crime for Indian Men.

Second, for auntie's making "Woh" does not need any restrication from legal point of view and the same goes on from of love with boy friends in the name of office boss, close friends and some time in the anme of brother. All those are love and those intelegent uncle have to go for sucide or send thier age old parents behind the bar , if try to oppose that.

She can make the "Woh" in open light, in open door on her own room , as the same used to call as Great Love......and those auntie's uncles does not know that.

Our Goverment, Blogers always trying by supporting all those gender biased LAW that L legal marriage is the crime in India and those people will follow that will be behind the bar.

The planning and action plan to kill the institution of marriage in India and to increse the single parenting system had been funded by a lot of well established orginasation and tried hard to teach Indian men that learn to live as per 21st century, but they do not understand and still want to stay in 16th century and as a result the sucide rate after marriage for Indian men are 2.5 times higher than married Indian women.

So not only One "Woh" , 1000 "Who" is allowed as per New law of this Land. Indian men have to take some time to realise that , as western men allready learned that long back.

"Just one question though before I sign off - Would same kind of confession be accepted by our Indian women if it was made compolisery that in the name of marriage the maintance, house expenses and allomoney will be shared by both uncle and auntie equally ?"

That will be the real women empowerment till the time only dadagri by some abd women and justify thier stand in the name of abala nari....will continue to drive more and more uncle to sucide after marriage.

#14
Kush
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July 25, 2006
08:01 AM

Always my dearest writer auntie/uncles prefers to avoid to give the answer to my question( may be that is too tough or thier real face will be exposed), but as always I give all the answer to writer auntie, every one ready the story but comment without answer of the Question, don't know why they affrid so much.

My answer to writer auntie's question:-

""Just one question though before I sign off - Would same kind of confession be accepted by our society if it was made by a woman?"

Answer will be "YES" - provided women also agree to take the responsibility of "WOH" the way Men takes for "WOH" in terms of safety, economically, socially , mentally and Legally.

Answer will be - "No" , if women think that Keeping "WOH" means is nothing but a double ATM machine to earn the money in dishonest way, a Highway truck driver also will be refused to became a partime "WOH" forget about full time "WOH"

Auntie choice is yours, neither society or Law of this Land restrict that.

#15
temporal
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July 25, 2006
09:16 AM

ams:

(feigning innocence) why'd she do that?

#16
Kush
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July 25, 2006
09:24 AM

What is this T - Uncle, this is must to empower the Women in India!!!! We have to kill the Institution of Marriage , we have to make millions of Single Parenting child..ohhhhh.

"WOH" have better option and legal protection than a legal wife...!!!

Options for doing the legal terorism are more in case of "WOH".

#17
temporal
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July 25, 2006
09:30 AM

hunh?

#18
Sakshi
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July 25, 2006
09:34 AM

Kushii Kushii Kushii....Kushii Kushii....
Aayi Re Aayi Re Khushi....
Khushi Khushi Khushi...

opppsss singing the wrong song at the wrong place. :)

#19
Righta
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July 25, 2006
11:14 AM

There are many skewed matriarchal systems(a good matriarachal system is said to be the best scheme for mankind to be in, Social sceintists will argue, I have no data or inclination for this) were polyandry is a way to power for these matriarchs.

In marketing theory there are discussions about forms of power like 1) Referal power- When role models(sport or film stars) endorse a product , we tend to have a favourable attitude towards the product 2) Expert Power; due to position/profession- When a dentist endorses a dental hygiene product, u sub consciously are inclined to that product, etc. Similarly this sexual power was and still us used by many a woman to acquire and dispense power.

See http://cruiserdeep.blogspot.com/2005/10/matriarchy-and-patriarchy-polyandry.html#links , for reading on the similar line.

As a digression: In many north-western states of India, men have to give dowry to women(like in many muslim communities/countries), and there are cases were Dowry prohibition laws have been invoked against these wives!.

So if such skewed matriarchs or selfish girls confess that they have a fling or two, people usually sit quiet, else they know false 498a is waiting to happen!.

PS: This is not fiction, this happens only in India

#20
balaji
July 25, 2006
01:31 PM

proportions my friend proportions.

what is the percentage of matriarchial societies in India? the kasi's and garo's of n-e? some himalayan tribes?

why is polyandry becoming a necessity in north-western societies? look at the man woman ratio. who is killing the girl children? or foeticides? Kush might know. he is a child lover. in some districts it is 780 girls to 1000 boys!

even in societies where kanya sulkam (dowry to be paid by men for marrying women) existed, in andhra in the 19th century and eary 20th century - the whole practice was against women. it created a phenomena called child-widows. rich old men married very young girls with a fantasy and often kicked the bucket before the girl matured. social reformers like gurazada appa rao wrote a powerful sarcastic play to bring the issue to the fore. and kandukuri veereshalingam pantulu fought against the practice.

whichever system, men often held control. and still do. and the system often is beneficial to men.

one does not deny some false cases of 498a abuse. i have personally tasted 498a in one of my close relative's case. had to deal with cops and the ignominy. so what? is that the rule or exception - in proportions? that is the question.

my rant with Kush and the brigade is - you made a point. there are abuses of 498a law. like there are abuses of all laws. POTA, TADA and imagine many more.

unless one has become the disciple of goebbel's and want to use the same methodology.

if K's objective is to make people think - the spam does really work against it. the repititive stuff jarrs and loses its effectiveness. his dadhu/auntie/uncle rubbish apart.

in my humble view.

#21
Righta
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July 25, 2006
03:41 PM

I agree proportions tip in favour of women. But the fact remains that innocents are victimsed among men violating the legal maxim of "Even if a thousand guilty escape, not a single innocent should be convicted"(whats the proportion of women who suffer this violation).

I am not disputing that women are not harassed, but why does that have to be a reason for innocent men to suffer, not just men the women folk of his family too(so for every law misusing women there is on a average 2 lady victims(mom and sis of hubby) of law misuse- so whats the proportion of women(misusing) Vs women(victims) in this case?- now that theres no gender issues here!. Aren't the women victims, not victims anymore just because they are related to husbands?).

Now coming to the article. Its always the powerful who take liberty to violate social norms and indulge in poly-mates, etc.. And power is not a monopoly of man or woman, power is realisation of ones potential. Potential can be any thing: like being an expert, an admirable person or being an object of desire.

So anyone who has realised the inherent power he/she has, can misuse the power. And a lot of women do this now and did even in the past(men too, so what!- they should be punished too)

#22
Kush
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July 26, 2006
07:51 AM

Balaji dadhu , that is the reason I used to termed people like your thinking as Pimps for such dirty logic:-

"my rant with Kush and the brigade is - you made a point. there are abuses of 498a law. like there are abuses of all laws. POTA, TADA and imagine many more."

498A is not a LAW like other IPC LAW, this is a special LAW and dangarous than a TADA/POTA/RAPE LAW , because due to your follishness not only you , your all realtive irrespective they stay with you or stay out of India will be behind the bar and for that "No evidence" required.
Result it is not a small abuse, large scale abuse , otherwise till date Supreme Court had never ever used so harsh word against any other IPC LAw except 498A.
USA, Canada never ever issued any warning against any other LAW except 498A.

At last if this LAW is so good , why NCW does not advertise the same every 10 mins in the all News channel?

Because Pimps want to earn the money by hiding the tur fact. Today the major money earning business for them through this 498A , which they do not want to Loose.

Convict rate in all other IPC LAW , where evidence required are more than 498A , 98% cases the wives family openly asking money in front of Police, Judge , media where as the alligation is the husabnd family asked money...

Hence, the result 498A became a family Killer, a Weapen to hide the Crime like Child killing, adultrate realtionship, Blackmailling, Extrotion of money..long list instead of doing any justice to the real victim.

Now about this story I have allready given my answer, choice is yours:-

Men find thier "WOH" in the form of Women like Nagma..

Women find the "Woh" in the form of Car Driver, Office Boss, Office Colege and some time so called brother...
"WOH" is there for both men as well as women only thing the quality of "Woh" is different due to different mind set of Indian People.

Choice is individuals and history wittness terrorist activity/dadagri can't give the freedom , so the Legal Terrorism in the form of 498A/DV Act/Rape Law used as a weapen to hide the criminal instead of doing the justice.

Let wait and watch , and be ready for watching the ZEE TV in the coming Sunday onwards....

#23
balaji
July 26, 2006
01:38 PM

i shall ignore the pimp and other stuff since i come to believe that you are vocabulary-challenged. and cannot indulge in decent debate. fair enough.

and every victim of any law would bemoan the law.

whoever told that TADA was a simple law and the cops did not misuse to put innocent behind bars without any judicial scrutiny in the initial period? wd u care to check the undertrials languishing in indian jails? for want of hearing for want of justice?

kindly do not shout. i can hear clearly. and see clearly.

by shouting you do not make a better point sir.

my opinion shall not change especially after i see the venom of victims like you - instead of empathy i can only sympathise with you. if love your victimhood sir, hats off to you.

and your pathological obsession and inability to see anything beyond your pain. hats off to that too.

to each his own madness. mine and yours.

#24
Sumanth
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July 26, 2006
03:08 PM

Balaji,

Female Foeticide happens because Indian society and parents consider boys as "disposable".

The returns from a boy to Indian society is much more than that from a girl.

The boy is an unpaid bodyguard and Money Making unemotional, non-cribing Slave. When girls also take the same role, society will start Male-foeticide.

It is the Feminists with "pro-choice" option are killing girl child.

It is Indian women who drive their men to corruption and suicide, go scot free and still crib that crime against women is increasing.
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So far as "Pimp" activity is concerned:
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I was listening to the Song by an Artist formerly known as "Prince" and the song is "Sexy MF".

Then I remembered the great "Sexy MF BHusain" of India whom you all Libertarians love so much.

This particular "Sexy MF" wants every Indian child to paint his mother and also father nude and start a painting exhibition.

If we call this "Sexy MF", other "Sexy FFs" and the pseudo-Libertarians supporting him as PIMPs, are we wrong?

Prostitution of one's culture, heritage and mother/father in front of foreign customers is certainly "PIMP Activity".

But today, Libertarian Pimps are the new clergy/Brahmins, who only know how to transform the Indian society.

#25
temporal
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July 26, 2006
03:20 PM

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So far as "Pimp" activity is concerned:
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'uncle's' fragile flanks are propped up;)

#26
balaji
July 26, 2006
10:55 PM

>>>Female Foeticide happens because Indian society and parents consider boys as "disposable".>>> et al.

i find it utterly preposterous. however much i love counter-intuitive theories.

in indian culture if we value something we dote, we invest, we nurture, we show partiality, and do not kill.

we 'dispose' what we think is disposable. not what is valuable. hence the foeticides.

as i said earlier, condoms also aid in pro-choice. for-life people 'think' condoms/other contraception methods are another tool of pro-choice people.

is your fight against condoms/contraception too?

it is an indisputable fact that access to contraception reduced the size of family - altering the 'old' structure of family. apart from other forces. i am sure you would agree, structure determines behavior.

shd we ban condoms/contraception? for life and anti pro-choice?

MF Hussain is, in my humble view, a diversion from the theme of discussion. some other space some other time.




#27
Preeti
July 26, 2006
11:08 PM

Sumanth

The returns from a boy to Indian society is much more than that from a girl

exactly.....

He gets a fat huge dowry for his parents. After his wedding , he can demand dowry, and make his wife work as a life long free servant of the house. You said it...finally.

#28
Preeti
July 26, 2006
11:14 PM

Sumanth as per you.....

"The boy is an unpaid bodyguard ": So we agree that he is physically stonger, hmmmm....then why do "you" not complain when he misuses his physicl power and rapes??

"and Money Making unemotional": Oh yes yes yes, I agree....he can fetch a fat dowry in the future.


"non-cribing Slave": Well... what does he have to crib about, when he gets free money and free servant!!!

#29
Righta
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July 26, 2006
11:51 PM

Aakkraman........ har har mahadev!

#30
Preeti
July 27, 2006
12:15 AM

speechless is it.....

#31
Righta
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July 27, 2006
01:20 AM

I was trying to capture the mood in here. But let me clear my stance, I will project the skew in Indian law which victimises Men along with the women of his family, by the hands of crooked wives.

I dont deny that there are genuine wife-victims, but don't intent speak for them, since there are a lot of "noise" behind them anyway, but still genuine victims do not come forward to use the laws intended to protect them(its the crooks who use these skewed laws almost always, thats why u have only 2% conviction in 498a cases- this is a statistic which u can verify with government websites)

I intend to speak only for victims of the husbands family only for now, to some how counter-balance the massive hue and cry(and hence the genesis of the Skew in case of 498a IPC in the first place) which is sustaining such draconic laws(aloing with the (il)legal money making racket)- which is seldom used by genuine victim-wives.

All the while acknowledging that cruelty is the monopoly of neither gender, so thers no need actually for cat fights about gender in this respect.

But if you want.... go..... Aakkraman....... its fun sometimes, batting practise sometimes!.

#32
Preeti
July 27, 2006
01:23 AM

What did u say...how did we reach a 498 again?

#33
Preeti
July 27, 2006
01:25 AM

and only .0000000000000002% men in SIF are innocent.

Most of them reach a mutual consentment, beg, plead as per SIF stds...and never show their face again. Thats why only 2%

#34
Righta
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July 27, 2006
01:43 AM

Yeah right

#35
Kush
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July 27, 2006
02:09 AM

Balaji dadhu, You can justify the removal of TADA/POTA in the name that it had been misused.
498A can't be changed in the same logic, as it hit only the common people and the money earning business by doing the Pimp activity will stop.

Last 30 yers you pimps allready done not only shouting , killed more than 55000 innocent people , yes now the time to get the return, continue with 498A, this kid will demolish all your Pimp house, just wait and watch.

Preeti auntie you can do your legal terrorism and earn a lot of money and the court record says, the 498A Pimp family asking money openly in front of judge, in front of police and in front of media also.

And waht is dowry ,streedhan and sowry still unaswered...because you want every thing to be get as a free with out taking any responsibility. If you hate dowry you have always the choice before and after marriage in civil way and enjoy the life with autodriver/car driver/unempoyment Pimps, but women like you want a hubby form IIT/IIM/NRI so that rest of the life get a whole sale free lincence to do the legal terrorism.

And further the Blackmillling LAW, extrotion law , attempet of murder LAW what for ? Why we need a LAW where no evidence is required?

Asking money or Property is the on birth right in the form a wife and if husabnd refuse her illegical demands or unable to meet her high expectation , not only husabnd her mother/sister all will be behind the bar , justyfying that nothing shows your intention that you want only money with out any hard work, typical 498A type women.

Mutual settelment , preeti auntie can you show a single case where husabnd family taken money ?

Yes last two years the women like preeti had done a lot of legal terrorism with the help of Modern Ravans , but today thier 100% granted money earning business getting choffed off and the desprate shouting to support the legal terrorism clearly shows waht type of women are you.

At last, if you fell 498A is a very good LAW, why the same can't be explained to every one in the all News Channel every 10 mins?

At last my question why 498A can't be applicable for mum and dad both?
If mum does not ask dowry from dad family, they will not be punished..very simple, why want mum a whole sale free lincence to do the mental/physical/verbal/economical harrasement?

Crime is crime, let who ever do the crime , let the equll punishmend, what is the problem with my dear preeti auntie?

Hiding ghost abala nari.. now a days after 498A not able to get partime fater for thier child, that is the reson trying to justyfy.

Let wait upto saterday, you will find who are hiding and who are openly faceing the TV camera.

#36
Kush
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July 27, 2006
02:28 AM

Preeti auntie your judgement does not match with the Judgement of Supreme court of India , a women who can break the chair of Highcourt judge, wonder why does not have guts to break the supreme court judges chair also..come on...nedd any help to break the supreme court Judge , how dare they term misuse of 498A as a Legal terrorism!!!!!!!!!!!!

Your comment "and only .0000000000000002% men in SIF are innocent.".. yes because maximum criminals in 498A, you will find in the form of WOMEN only and MEN either had been out of 498A or Pimps are not allowed to do the legal terrorism, and our aim this should be 0.00000000000000000%.

No sucided of any Husabnds( Once belive in SIF activity) in the hand of crule wife and the sucess rate till date 100%.

On the other hand 99.999999999999999999% BIF are either child killer, Pimps or prostitutes and not able to stop the sucide of 498A Girls and nerves break down of their family , they are every day beging for a part time husabnd in the form of "WOH", today scared and tried all the means to shut the voice of SIF , but day by day the voice had been incresed by get speed and all those pimps family today beggaing for a divorce , but

SIF husabnds say after sucessfull Quashing of 498A case upto Supreme court and toady women orginasation ever day begging for a mutual divorce , but SIF volenters( Not members there is some difference between volenter and members)

" We have some social responsibilty and we will not allow a Nagin to bite another innocent people in the form of a Lega wife, No Divorce/no BIF activity no Part time fathers( Not father) for the Child"

SIF or BIF you choice.
Dowry harrasement or Sowry harrasemnt you choice.
Whole sale free lincence or Crime based LAW choice is yours.

No one putting a gun on your head, it is upto you to decided , let a life means find a hole or seal a child killer hole....

By the way Rakhi auntie now a days says , whe will not perform in stage show , so writer autie or preeti auntie , be ready to take her place as we kid really want to see the "Tatoo"...

#37
hardy
July 27, 2006
05:20 AM

I am against extrapolating use of bad words for entire community for sake of criminal few be it a man or woman.
The problem i see is that some bad people enjoy when a lot of poors suffer.
It happens with 498A, reservation e.t.c
The idea is to distinguish who actually needs 498A.Why do not women favour the fact that if a women declares herself as independent ahead/after marriage(i.e make it a part mandatory requirement for marriage to culminate) she can not use any family laws like 498A e.t.c meant to be highly skewed in favour of women.
She is independent and can choose to quit any moment(before or after marriage) if she feels her wish is not being met. Why should men and only mean be made to suffer even when women are independent. But I am certain these things will not make news because women want best of both worlds. They want to milk their husbands and at the same time enjoy the sympathy of society as abla naries. Do not cite me examples of poor women , Because you can very well frame a law in which you may choose to have the default stating that women are dependent and hence they hold to right to use 498A. That way women in marriges which happen in villages, remote areas will still be benefited by 498A.

#38
Mayank Austen Soofi
URL
July 27, 2006
05:27 AM

Whatever be their inner schemes, I think its a very sensible arrangement. They all ahve acted very wisely. Good for all three of them!

#39
Kush
URL
July 27, 2006
06:00 AM

Dear uncle, whatever may be , but our feminst aunties does not think that way, hence the question provides to support thier "Legal Terrorism" to show "How women are abala nari..."

Secondly as a legal wife, she can't punish to Nagma Auntie (a bad women can't get any punishment as per LAW of this LAND), yes she can very well punish "Pati" let he had "WOH" or not having "WOH" that does not need any evidence, as a result the wise acting sharing for her the cooking class with "WOH".

Here is the Point and the writter auntie's question allready answered....Quantity wise "WOH" is there for both Pati as well as Patni , only thing the quality of "WOH" is different..

Type one : Women in the form Nagma/Julie/Rakhi..etc.
Type two: Men in the form of Drivers/House Keeper/Office Boss..etc.

repeat of the writers own word:-
"Jab Miya, Biwi or Woh raazi to kya karega Blogazee".

#40
Krishnakala
July 28, 2006
01:23 AM

These days it is a common threat.

Either a housewife is tortured by her in-laws

or then by her husband who loves to keep keeps.

Lucky are those women who find a husband who are their life-partners in the true sense.

#41
Kush
URL
July 28, 2006
01:36 AM

"Housewife"-- those who hate to work and want to earn the money as a free ATM machine from thier husabnd and search thier "WOH" from car driver/house servents.

Further if your parents does not given you the light of 21st century reality, for that you have to go back and ask them..

"These days it is a common threat"

More than 80% wives ensure that thier husabnd does not keep a close realtion with their parents, forget about staying with them , let it be house wife or working wife, if the husabnd refuse to obey thier dearest wives action plan, not only husabnd all his sister/mother/small small child will be put behind the bar with out any investigation or any evidence.

at the end :-

"Lucky are those MEN who find a wife who are their life-partners in the true sense." not a free ATM Machine.

#42
Krishnakala
July 28, 2006
01:37 AM

Thanks for putting it across.

#43
Kush
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July 28, 2006
01:45 AM

Thanks not to me , give thanks those have not shown you the 21st century reality, though Ms. Sobha de along with her all feminist tiring hard to show the same and teach what is 16th century and what is 21st century..

#44
Sakshi
URL
July 28, 2006
01:47 AM

Kushii Kushii Kushii....Kushii Kushii....
Aayi Re Aayi Re Khushi....
Khushi Khushi Khushi...

May he needs to sing this out loud.

#45
Woman
July 28, 2006
01:48 AM

Why dont you go and make merry with that other BOOTNI maitri or whatever deepshit

#46
Kush
URL
July 28, 2006
01:57 AM

My dearst hiding ghost abala auntie.. I allready learned from this DC forum that , there is no need of any marriage for a hole ..

Marriage means a whole sale free gate pass to send all your age old parents and sister behind the bar..

I will prefer to be a rapist as LAW says if you do the sex without marriage that is called RAPE.

So Rape is a better crime than became a Husabnd.. at least my age old parents will not go to jail, even I do the rape.

But they will go to jail if I marry in this LAND with out any investigation..

and a lot of hiding ghost abala nari.. let them to continue to beg for part time marriage till the time it is considered "Husabnd" is a worse criminal than a "Rapist"

#47
Woman
July 28, 2006
01:59 AM

If I am hiding ghost , then what are you, hiding your name for obvious reasons.

I feel pity on you....dead is better

#48
Kush
URL
July 28, 2006
02:12 AM

If you are blind for that I am not responsible.

And as per Dc comment policy if the meanning of Hiding Indentity changed for that Kush is not responsible...( my indentify allready avilable in my blog and any time well come for that test reports..court certified copy).

And if your are "BOOTNI maitri" .. find your part time "WOH" in some other place in the internate...

#49
temporal
URL
July 28, 2006
02:18 AM

hunh?

#50
Kush
URL
July 28, 2006
02:20 AM

Bolti bandh?
Athi kya Khandawala?

#51
temporal
URL
July 28, 2006
02:21 AM

look up under 'd'

;)

hint: delusions

#52
Kush
URL
July 28, 2006
02:28 AM

"Yes" form comment no. 45 onwards , at least now I came to know that T uncle.

As I got some offer from some "WOH" so thought why to waste that..by way T -uncle, taking "WOH" to Khandawala , is not a crime in this LAND, do not know wbout DC Comment policy.

#53
DesiGirl
URL
August 4, 2006
05:12 PM

Hey, guess what news item I found when I was trawling the WWW?


Nagma to get married
IndiaGlitz [Friday, August 04, 2006]

Nagma,one of the star actress of yesteryears is planning to get married. She is to marry the Bhojpuri actor Ravi Kishan by the end of September. Nagma, who was the heartthrob of many has acted in a number of Tamil and Telugu hits and in a very few Malayalam films.

Nagma is quite a star in Bhojpuri films and has acted with Ravi Kishan in an around ten films in the language.

Nagma who started his career with Salman Khan in a Hindi block buster, later shifted to the South where she could find big hits in the late nineties. She has acted with every superstars of the South Indian Cinema.


Where does the first Mrs Kishen fit in?

#54
Preeti
August 5, 2006
01:13 AM

Desi Girl

You asked where does the first Mrs Kishen fit in?

Lets think:

Mrs Kishen: will file cases on her husband
Mr kishen: will join SIF and make eveyones life entertaining here in the blog world
Mrs Kishen 2: will be called the innocent sisters of the SIF dumb asses.

#55
Preeti
August 5, 2006
01:26 AM

exactly!

#56
Preeti
August 5, 2006
01:27 AM

What has SIF done to provide help to Mrs Kishen....


Show what you got , before poking your chopped nose(that was after 498a)!

#57
Righta
URL
August 5, 2006
01:59 PM

Pretty jobless lasses, I should say(thats about u Preeti). As for Nagma or Mrs.Kishen they seems to be in a mood to live happily ever after as they pray for enough potency for Mr.Ravi Kishen to sustain threesomes on a sustained long-haul basis. I dont think theres gonna be a false accusation on anyone, until everyone has his/her share of mind-body space.

#58
Mrs Kishen
August 5, 2006
02:03 PM

Righta

the question was what has SIF done ??

#59
Mrs Kishen
August 5, 2006
02:04 PM

ohh I got it Sif will provide the tricks to potency...correct?

Ya you guys have experience otherwise from where would all the kushies, maitres, and other illegits come from?

#60
Righta
URL
August 5, 2006
02:21 PM

What should anyone do, leave alone SIF, in between 3 people trying to have a working relationship in bed!. I mean come on........ think about it.

#61
Sakshi
URL
August 5, 2006
02:57 PM

DesiGirl - This is the bit where the Gossip factor comes into play. I really doubt that the story is true.

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