OPINION

salaam mumbai

July 14, 2006
temporal

salaams to all mumbaikars
above faith, caste, creed
who donated blood
till the banks overflowed

salaams to grand mothers
and young and old
who handed water and food
to those in distress

salaams to sainiks also
despite loathsome disagreements
for not being modi-clones

salaam to the pakistani desicritic*
who used his earthquake experience
and in hours set up a wiki help page
for depicting camaraderie and empathy
and for shattering stereotypes

salaam mumbai, salaam
for showing grit and resolve
for carrying on business as usual
refusing to give in to the killers
for coming of age
for showing restraint and
for not being gujarat
shabaash mumbai, shabaash
tujh ko m'ra pyar bhara salaam

*iFaqeer

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#1
Raj
July 14, 2006
09:59 AM

"for showing restraint and
for not being gujrat"


First of all, its G-U-J-A-R-A-T. Secondly,last heard, Mumbai and Gujarat were both parts of India. Its not for a paki to decide which is better or worse. Lastly,temporal is a paki - am I the only one who sees the irony ? His country is directly responsible for the Mumbai blasts, just like it is responsible for loss of thousands of innocent Indian lives through acts of terrorism, having declared a war on the people of India...and this guy has the audacity to pass judgement on the people of India ..

How dare you ?

#2
temporal
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July 14, 2006
10:04 AM

the typo is fixed

and thanks for your comments

you should read some of my eulogies for mushy and the mad mullahs:)

#3
Raj
July 14, 2006
10:06 AM

I cant think of a parallel to this.....Its like Osama saying 'Salaam LA for not being NYC' ... in event of a few muslims being killed in NYC in response to 9-11 and none in LA... Just an analogy.

#4
Apollo
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July 14, 2006
11:17 AM

Why does one need to bring Gujarat into everything? what did those 200 dead have got to do with gujarat? I'am sure ur great-great-great-great-great grandchildren will bring up Gujarat as justification for bombing the Martian city of Zorphia in 2526 AD.



#5
Raj
July 14, 2006
11:24 AM

Apollo.....my uncle once told me how in 1986 or 87, when Javed Miandad hit Chetan Sharma for a 6 off the last ball and won the match for Pakistan, there were loud celebration by muslims all over Mumbai. Remember BJP had 2 seats then, 'secular' Congress was in power, RSS was a negligible force, concept of 'hindutwa' was unheard of and Modi was probably running around in his village in his langotis...

#6
Apollo
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July 14, 2006
11:35 AM

Is Gujarat also the justification for Mohammed Qasim's invasion of sindh in 712AD? or Mohammed Ghazni destroying Mathura and Somnath in 1006 AD?

#7
balaji
July 14, 2006
02:34 PM

raj

is it possible in your world-view that a jew could criticize israeli government, an american criticize bush and a pakistani critize mush?

and an indian criticizing indian government (manmohan, vajpayee, sonia et al.)?

and have a different opinion than what a government pushes?

and dear apollo, destroying temples of another faith was not just gazni's core competence.

the shaivaites practiced it, the vaishnavaites are supposed to have done it.

and so did the taliban.

so what does it say?

no bigotry is better than others. home made or 'foreign'. in my humble view.

#8
ghulam
July 14, 2006
02:36 PM

here comes the apollo&raj basher......

Saaloo Nikammoo.....koi kaam-dhandha hai ...yah...DC pe hamesha tattee karne aate rehte ho......Lmaao......

#9
Sanjay
July 14, 2006
05:08 PM

So is temporal Pakistani? I'd really like to know. Because if he is, then that would really explain his views.

Just remember,

Desi != Dhimmi

#10
temporal
URL
July 14, 2006
06:06 PM

yes temporal is a pakistani, also an indian, an american, a canadian and more...a true world citizen!

my nationality or your nationality is not an issue here...(message, not the messenger)

why should i confirm or deny my canadian nationality or indian birth or ameircan passport, or stays in a few odd countries on four continents, or gods i follow or my pet peeves to every cyber-god and legend-in-his/her-mind who asks?...since when is that a requisite to write or comment here?...

the only thing that should suffice is am an (aspiring) human being and interact mostly with respect ...with everyone including certified cuckoos, bigots and myopic imbeciles...(yes, there are a few sub-humans that i tend to give a wide berth...may they live peacefully in their cocoons)

anything else intrigues you please check out the message at the bottom of ont. license plate!

enough!...now back to the laudatory message in this poem....:)

#11
Aaman
URL
July 14, 2006
09:22 PM

Well put

Soldier on, my friend, and fight the good fight

#12
Aaman
URL
July 14, 2006
09:25 PM

I am reminded of my father, who was born in 'Pindi, came over in the Partition, and would say, "I have drunk the milk of two mothers"

#13
Sanjay
July 14, 2006
10:17 PM

temporal wrote:
yes temporal is a pakistani, also an indian, an american, a canadian and more...a true world citizen!

Wonderful, since you're all things to all people, can we also call you an ape, a baboon, and reptile? Or would this be too insulting to wildlife? I'm an animal-lover myself, so perhaps one shouldn't disparage the animal kingdom in this manner.

#14
temporal
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July 14, 2006
10:38 PM

sanjay:

be my guest...be as delusional as you feel:)


...i reflect the values i inherited...


...the labels mean nothing to dust or ashes

#15
Preeti
July 15, 2006
12:19 AM

Very beautiful peom Temporal. It has come from your heart.

Definately Sainiks need to be applauded for their service for other humans and plus all other mumbaites.

I too have my reservations of the islamic fanatics once in a while and people like Gulam who with their dour insensate comments put the whole caste into shame & embarassment.

But a person like you can save/saves the grace of the caste and deserves to be first called a human being above all else.

Just the way I think of President Abdul Kalam who refuses to be linked with any sect. He has surprised ( & dissappointed several) and gone beyond. A true true Indian (infact I find him to be more Hindu) because for me a hindu is the one who accepts everyone (history is witness).

Same applies to you!!

Once again great poem.

#16
ghulam
July 15, 2006
02:29 AM

"people like Gulam who with their dour insensate comments put the whole caste into shame & embarassment."

preeti Mam....with all due respect.....iam very well aware of ma "oh so retarded-foul-caustic -off the cuff language"....here ....but u see the sole cause for the same are few goons around.....and at times u need to get down in gutter to clean .up...and u come out dirty.....i can't stand these "a la modi"...lunk-heads ....every time they will get down cheap.......i will get cheaper.....

#17
Apollo
URL
July 15, 2006
09:12 AM

[edited - please refrain from personal attacks]

#18
Apollo
URL
July 15, 2006
10:01 AM

oh wait did i make a personal attack here.

Arrey Aaman why don't u admit that this site is Desileftists.org.

tumhari chori ab pakdi gayi

#19
Aaman
URL
July 15, 2006
10:13 AM

I'm not the only editor hereabouts

#20
Apollo
URL
July 15, 2006
10:17 AM

well if its personal attacks that is being deleted. just go thru any such thread and u can see for urself that only one side has been deleted the other (leftist, fundamentalist's) personal attacks are still there.

atleast there should be some objectivity.

#21
Aaman
URL
July 15, 2006
10:27 AM

You can bring any objectionable comments to the attention of the editors who will take a look and address as needed

#22
Apollo
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July 15, 2006
10:53 AM

Most editors with "hindu" names are leftists, the rest are pakis. so objectivity goes right thru the window. The disease that is affecting mainstream media seems to have found its way here too.

#23
temporal
URL
July 15, 2006
10:59 AM

:)

you are so perceptive, analytical and objective apollo....just give the command and we will get the gas chambers going?

#24
temporal
URL
July 15, 2006
11:03 AM

preeti thanks

as has been amply demonstrated here and on other boards today:

buhat mushkil hay aadmi say insaaN ban'na

tr: it is not easy for a man (or a woman) to become a (decent) human-being

#25
Apollo
URL
July 15, 2006
11:11 AM

[edited - please refrain from personal attacks]

#26
Apollo
URL
July 15, 2006
11:12 AM

do not forget to get a fatwa in my name from the biggest mullah in pakistan. I too want to have my 15 minutes of fame before i die.

#27
temporal
URL
July 15, 2006
11:31 AM

apollo:

what are you smoking?

sorry to disappoint you on fatwa;)

(there is a fatwa on my head already -- as such i cannot proclaim a fatwa on yours)

#28
Apollo
URL
July 15, 2006
11:34 AM

LOL!!!!!!!!! fatwa on ur head for what? starting a gas chamber to kill infidels. maybe only the halal method is the right way to slaughter a infidel. Can u give me the name, address, tel no and email of the nut who put a price on ur head? ;)

#29
Apollo
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July 15, 2006
11:36 AM

here we go again. only my comments are being delted while temporal is as it is. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

Aaman ab maan bhi jao yaar. yeh hein Desileftists.org

#30
temporal
URL
July 15, 2006
11:40 AM

you are so special apollo:)

do tell me what you are smoking

#31
Apollo
URL
July 15, 2006
11:44 AM

U tell me temporal. it is ur gas chamber only where u have put me. what are u killing me with? ;)

#32
temporal
URL
July 15, 2006
11:48 AM

apollo:

don't lose the cynicism in #23

;)

the victims in auschwitz were also the workers there

#33
Deepti lamba
URL
July 15, 2006
01:20 PM

Oh! now I get it, t;)

#34
Deepti lamba
URL
July 15, 2006
01:21 PM

Oh! now I get it, t;)

#35
balaji
July 15, 2006
02:13 PM

interesting apollo.

i thought this is a place for ultra-conservatives, neo-con inspired theorists, and ultra-rightists et al. if you do a content and quannti-analysis of the comments etc.

surprising that DC is DL!

i find all, especially invectives and all, often in my ole time sensibilities - ought to be edited-.,

i guess the editors have been as fair i guess as possible - accomodating posters and imposters here;)

i might veer a bit and say indulgent some times??

so everyone complains. true democracy!

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