The Indian Youth - United We Stand
Sakshi Juneja
We, the Indian Youth are often labeled by the political parties and at times by the society as being too self-centered and un-attached. But are we really that egotistical or is it that our belief in voicing our opinion - the actual reason behind this opinion.
Our surroundings, our political/social environment today is very different to what it was 10-20 years ago; Why should our thinking be that ancient too. I wouldn't be wrong if I said that today's youth are so much more emotional and fired up towards needed causes and social issues, many of which have no relation with us directly or in-directly.
Not only have we gone on street marches with our views on Reservation in Education sector, building of Narmada Dam, cleaning up of Mithi River, injustice towards Homosexuals, banning of sale of elephants, etc. but we have also taken up the responsibility of attaining justice for the common Indian citizens like Jessica Lall, Manjunathan Shanmughan, Meher Bhargava and Satyendra Dubey.
One agrees that there has also been misuse of this Youth Power by some scrupulous youth organizations and individuals but then it's just the case of separating the bad apples from the good ones.
We are not only aware of our duties towards our families but also our responsibilities towards our country and its people.
Today we are blessed with advanced technology & means which the previous generations lacked and thankfully we have made positive use of it by creating and spreading more awareness. For example - sending out SMS, email fwds, blog posts, online discussions, etc. This has not only helped in connecting various youth groups nationwide but it has also made it possible for many Indians overseas to lend their support to the needed causes back home.
But the major support and backing that has inspired and encouraged youth involvement has come from the Media. Yes, I agree most of the time we blame them for their selfish goals and TRP ratings but how can we deny their involvement. Even if their support is a part of some money-making plan, as long as they are making our united voice reach the common man - our purpose is served.
So yes we are self-centered when it comes to betterment of our nation and yes, we are un-attached to materialist gains and we don't give a damn what you think about us. But just remember that we have our eyes on you, no more injustice, no more excuses, we are out to achieve positive results only - We are the Indian Youths.
Update:
Just another perfect example of Youth Power.
A number of students are planning to hold a protest march at India Gate on July 23, 2006, in support of the appeal in the Priyadarshani Mattoo rape and murder case.
The accused Santosh Yadav, a son of a senior Indian Police Service officer, escaped the punishment due to lack of circumstantial evidence. What's even more pathetic was the fact that Additional sessions judge GP Thareja, while giving the ruling, said he knew the accused was guilty but was giving him the benefit of doubt. Santosh Yadav is now practicing law in New Delhi courts and the petition over re-opening of the case has been collecting dust for the past 10 years.
These young students together with Matoo's school friend Indu have decided to help out her family in acquiring justice and putting the cold-blooded murderer behind bars.
"She was just a normal human being. She wanted to live life to the fullest. She was brilliant and you can see that through her academic record. She was beautiful human being and did not deserve a guy like this," says Indu.
The reasons why these young people decided to get involved...
"We are organizing the march on her birthday in order to create awareness amongst the students and people of India," says Arnab, a student."I am here because I think it is a cause that should be taken up as the Meher Bhargava case and the Jessica Lall case," adds Vivek Raina.
So if you are in Delhi on 23rd July, please make it a necessity to join in with these brave people and Matoo's family and support in achieving justice for our people, our nation and most importantly humanity.
The Indian Youth - United We Stand
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Apollo
URL
July 5, 2006
11:06 AM
well said!
K
July 5, 2006
11:16 AM
Yeah...We Rule!
Sumanth
URL
July 5, 2006
01:16 PM
Indian Youth head towards:
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1) Indulgence
2) Ungratefulness
3) Greed
4) Intolerant (to past, to self, to others)
5) Selfishness
6) Irresponsibility (to everything)
7) Insensitivity
8) Over-confidence
9) Confusion
10) Brainwashing by unscrupulous.
11) Powerlessness
For the first time in human history we get an opportunity to design a new civilisation and here the youth behave like a bunch of "automatons".
Media rigs the polls, triggers the youth waste their energy fighting imaginary battles.
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Its great that at least now, the young are coming out to protest against the dysfunctional law enforcement and legal system.
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But, why do they have to wait for the triggers by media funded by vested interests?
Sumanth
URL
July 5, 2006
01:27 PM
"No more injustice, no more excuses, we are out to achieve positive results only..."
How do youth like to achieve all that? By begging in the street (oops.....India Gate)?
One has to hit at the very root of the problem and not at the branches.
The Legal System does not work. Full stop.
As, there are draconian laws against contempt of court, media does not criticise judiciary.
So, everybody thinks that Judiciary is the most cleanest and efficient of all Govt organisations.
What a Bullshit?
The Bus Drivers in Bangalore are much more efficient and clean that the greats who run our Judiciary.
Shame of Indian Judiciary.
But, media tells the youth,"Trust the Judiciary" when one can buy arrest warrents against president of India by paying a small bribe.
Are the youth Proactive or Reactive?
What happened to Y4E which claimed that it has much more strength that Mandal-I?
Till when the youth bask on bogus claims of power while they sacrifice nothing for the country?
Tell me a group of youth who are ready to sacrifice something or other for the nation?
I know there must be some stories. Thats what we need.
Sakshi
URL
July 5, 2006
01:32 PM
Sumanth - If you think media is money-minded then why the heck do you and your counterparts keep circulating and fwding news articles, write-ups and stories, etc about mis-use of IPC 498.
Aren't you also then using the media as and when you wish?
Many of your members belong to the Indian Youth population....so you telling us that they Greedy, Selfish, Insensitive...as well?
Ohhh...do they belong to some other breed altogether.
I think its high time that you stop looking around from your scratched glasses. Agree, there is still loads to be done...but as they One Night At A Time.
Sakshi
URL
July 5, 2006
01:38 PM
Once again your talks reflect nothing but double standards....you ridecule Street protets and other youth agitated conferences as begging on streets....but don't you and your organisation use the same means to make your plight and voice heard.
Weren't you the one who is some previous post of mine, raised a questions whether there were any doctors avaliable to perform surgery of attitudes?
Well I guess you need to go to them too.
Sumanth
URL
July 5, 2006
03:04 PM
Sakshi,
I have not come here to criticise you.
I have just provided with some other aspects of Present day Indian Youth. It may be correct or incorrect. Thats upto the readers to decide.
You have asked some very important questions and issues.
1) I do not think Media is just money minded. If had it been money minded, it would have been much better.
Media has its own agendas. Thats dangerous for democracy. Media uses its power to plant stories/misinformation, create hoaxes, rig the SMS polls, suppress/amplify stories.
In short, I accuse media of undemocratically hijacking the nation to push its own agendas.
Its agendas can come from its corporate bosses and even the western intelligence agencies.
2) The job of Media is to tell truth in a balanced manner.
It is not Media's job to lead and change the nation.
3) Is Modernisation and Westernisation the same thing? For media it is the same.
3) You said, "we use Media while we accuse it of having vested interests."
You are right. We used media because it wants to get used.
We do not give a damn if media writes about the issue or not. We have no expectations from media. We do not give any credit to media as it has done nothing to stop "human rights violation of innocent elders."
4) We took to blogging and websites only because we do not trust media which suppressed the issue for so long. Media has tried its best to put brakes on us, but still their shield leaks as some of our people are inside media.
5) In fact, it is media which is responsible for for the whole situation. If it had highlighted the issue, the section 498a could have got slightly modifications which would have prevented its misuse.
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People trust media so easily and media is betraying that trust by being a pawn of western vested interests, who want to culturally improve so called disgusting India.
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The World Wars I & II were fought by physical weapons.
The cold war was fought by economic weapons.
The future war against India, China will be fought by using "sociological weapons". They will be fought by virusing the society with destructive memes.
Here Indian media has shown on which side it is.
The great Indian Youth (the fools that they are) play second fiddle to the main actors.
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We fight the battle from a state of "no loss" and "acceptance". We accept the fact that innocent old people can be jailed and we are not outraged or intolerant about it.
We are independent. Only independent people can be interdependent. Look at Y4E, it depended on Media and media suddenly betrayed them. Will they ever even recover?
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balaji
July 5, 2006
03:31 PM
sumanth
i might beg to differ.
most of the media, barring a few, are concerned about govt adverts and 'circulation'. and 'shareholder' value. means money.
money plays a role. often.
all fights about transformation or against transformation is about competing memes.
agendas also do play a role i can see.
Sumanth
URL
July 5, 2006
03:50 PM
"money plays a role. often."
The Intelligence agencies have got billions. The media can make a meagre profit of couple of crores by conventional means.
It is alleged that KGB paid Indian Media in 1970s. At that time, media was much cleaner and uncommercialised.
Did not CNN has an agenda in Iraq war?
If yes, then why will not CNN-IPN will not have a vested agenda today?
"Bhagdeep Pardesai" wrote in detail, "Can Goa be the next terrorist destination?" doing home work for terrorists.
MDTV owned by relatives of Burundi Karrot displayed the list of those divine drugs which are used for date rape.
Has media got a contract from some agency to increase date rape and terrorist attacks?
After all, its all about money. Is not it?
Blurred images of DPS MMS really helped people understand novel usage of Mobile phones?
I must trust Media. I must trust the upper caste clans that run the Media.
Sumanth
URL
July 5, 2006
03:56 PM
I love Indian Media (especially the Visual Media) as it is an agent of change.
It has brought great change by:
1) Displaying DPS MMS (blurred).
2) Displaying alleged Karina-Sehid kiss.
3) displaying the Date rape drugs.
4) Suppressing female foeticide stories.
5) Suppressing Roma Bhatia story.
Media says
"We, the people. I am the State."
Hope, they will get a Bastile one day.
temporal
URL
July 5, 2006
04:05 PM
Sumanth:
these gems take the cake...please continue imbibing whatever it is you are taking;)
* How do youth like to achieve all that? By begging in the street (oops.....India Gate)? --yes, they should be spamming instead!
* One has to hit at the very root of the problem and not at the branches. --Trotsky zindabad?
* The Legal System does not work. Full stop. -- there goes all your efforts crying wolf over 498-a!
* As, there are draconian laws against contempt of court, media does not criticise judiciary....So, everybody thinks that Judiciary is the most cleanest and efficient of all Govt organisations. -- hunh?
The Bus Drivers in Bangalore are much more efficient and clean that the greats who run our Judiciary. -- this is another beauty...so now should we get the high and supreme court judges from the Banlgore Transportation Services?
...and there is more ... but for that i need to imbibe from the same bottle;)
Sweet Rebel
July 5, 2006
11:03 PM
Gen Y dosent belive in Media ...We r aware that it's jus Showbussiness. So do not try to Buc with us.
Jai hind.
Preeti
July 6, 2006
03:36 AM
Once upon a time , I too had ample confidence in myself that I thought I could deal with the tainted judicial system if ever the need arises. I blamed people who bribed as I felt that they were responsible for failing the system.
Why I had confidence?
Becasue I am educated, aware, outspoken, subborn(as in I made a promise to myself that i would never relent to any wrong).
But alas....my one experience with the law has totally shaken me up. Though most of the hearings that I attended were in my favour, let me mention that right from the constable to every single man in the police station, to the guy in the court who gives dates , to the person to sits next to the judge(for whatever reason), to the person who types(OMG very impt!!), to the PP are all in a simple word 'dishonest'.
It is a blessing that I am young therefore have the energy and plus am short tempered & stubborn that I sailed across .
This experience can be very dejecting and it is a time when one feels let out by its own country. It can take a toll on anyone who had high hopes from the system that things can be positive!!! No....never.
I never bribed anyone during the ongoing proceedings and always managed yet to get my own way as of now. And the reason I have got some justice is coz I have a strong financial BG. Probably that has acted like an undercurrent force or as a threat to the wrong doers (as they maybe assume if I use my financial strength, it will work against them and can be detrimental) coz I put it across to them subtly that I can raise a huge hue and cry.
The legal system sucks. Fultime. Therefore I was very sure that even this time around also , the reservations would go through and no amount of protests would work. Even if a 1000 students burnt themsleves , it would have still been futile.
One has to go to the police station, the courtrooms and experience the whole process to know what it is like and why there would never be any hope anytime.
The government has sympathy for the so called poor, SC, ST , minorities since it is their vote bank.
The law has sympathy for the criminals & dishonest since they make money from the these criminals in the form of bribes.
The rest who are the non-minority , well to do & honest can get lost.
Satya
July 6, 2006
12:53 PM
Sumanth,
That was wonderful.Keep going.I agree with you totally that so called prominent indian media both print and TV have a personal agenda, most of the time a commi agenda.Since 8 out of 10 reporters are from a communist ruled state mostly from West bengal or Kerala.If one observes every second/third reporter in Ndtv and Cnn-ibn is a bengali or a keralite. How come media which talks about equality now and again is filled with majority bengalis?
I agree totally with Sumanth that media with an agenda is most dangerous to our country. Our news channels clearly show which side they are when it comes to talk shows or debates,with the news reporter clearly favouring one political party and giving him more air time. Such is the double standards of our media that one hand it shouts about womens right/ injustice to women etc. and immediately praises about mallika sherawats diminishing wardrobe.
Sumanth
URL
July 6, 2006
04:00 PM
Preeti,
Indian Legal system sucks. The bench clerks ask you money within one meter of the judge's seat (just before the judge arrives).
The advocate lobbies make sure that there are no legal reforms and they also oppose Lok Adalats which reduce the misery of the poor.
How many of present day youth ever attended a hearing in a court (when the entry is always free). The family courts and criminal courts exist in same buildings and children see chained criminals there.
Has any bastard in Media ever taken this issue?
Why will they?
After all they have got to cover publicity stunt between Rakhi Sawant and Mika and then conver wardrobe malfunction.
But brainwashed youth will always give their enlightened opinions from a distance using a remote control.
Now a days, young 23 something female journalists give advice to old on how they should spend time after retirement.
Sanjay:
Just watch, no one even points a finger at Media. Even the politicians stand in a line to get an audience with these "Media Moghuls" and "Political Editors".
Even inside Media there is no originality. All the memes in media come from 2 or 3 sources.
Preeti
July 6, 2006
05:31 PM
Sumanth
I don't think I want to blame the youth who are blissfully ignorant. I too once was the same, use to make tall claims about changes and have positive expectations. As I have already said unless one does not have a full-cycle personal experience cum interaction with law right from policemen to the people in court, one will not fathom the depth of the debilitated legal system.
But still...no minor or some change can correct this. The entire system has to be washed out and started afresh. Everything. ;)
For example: when car dealers in US sell second hand cars, they put a warning sign to free themselves from future monetary liabilities, which reads "For sale AS IT IS".
Same applies to the legal system....It is as it is.
Personally I would not wish anyone to have an encounter with the legal system as it will be distressing especially the youth because their expectations/hopes to change are sky high and the obvious fall that is bound to occur is too painful and can leave anyone mentally drained out.
Therefore it is best to be blissfully ignorant and comment from distance and hope for the best. Hope for the best......!
temporal
URL
July 6, 2006
06:01 PM
Preeti:
if you can share --- write a post on your court experiences
digression: The entire system has to be washed out and started afresh. Everything. ;)
this is loaded...it is not a blackboard one can wipe clear...laws, legal precedents, statutes, delivery system, enforcement system....it is simply not practical...they system has to gradually reformed from within...the alternate is chaos
Preeti
July 6, 2006
07:05 PM
Temporal
I know that the alternate is chaos. But what is present ?
For me in my country, I feel the legal system provides full proof refuge, benefit of the doubt, all the chances for the criminal to get himself out of it.
1) for example the cases go on and on for years.
2) that it self breaks the willpower of the victim's family who already have suffered a loss (maybeforever) and they do not have the strength to drag the case for decades and cause furthe self grief .
3) this scenario is very well exploited by the criminal.
4) most cases shut automatically!! reason: victim's family left town.
For me a total change is a solution only. How about starting the concept of introducing jury members for cases that are under trial. And make a quick desicion in approx 2 years. Justice delayed is justice denied.
Oh...i can only imagine the outroar this will create by the govt lawyers who will loose their source of dishonest income, the govt jugdes who will loose some portion of their desicion making power(or is it ego) and all the other govt clones who will loose their extra sources of income.
Do you know the person that types the order of the judge who sits next to him...so many times she (yes she) has duped me by postponing my date. For example the judge says 10th Aug next hearing, she will type in the order 10th Nov and give it to me. When I protest she says that I did not hear and do not understand marathi. In real courtrooms one cannot even raise his/her own voice or even talk in normal tones. (please get off that sunny deol myth) .
Even if I protest in a normal tone about the incorrect date, I am asked to leave the room.
The next time around I was more alert , NOW I was asked to collect the order a couple of days later. When I collected it , well , the same incorrect date, this time I had no chance to protest also. Just show up. And am only in my late 20's and am highly irritated by the legal system. My education, double degrees , knowledge did not come to my rescue.
My stubborness only helped me.
temporal
URL
July 6, 2006
07:25 PM
Preeti:
i have more than a vague notion of what you say...it is the same all over the sub continent...but it can be reformed....did you know there was a time when IPC had jury trials?...why they were disbanded is a mystery...
court dates...ah yes...bribe the clerk ..and yes postponing indefinitely plays havoc with the plaintiff or the defendant...but these have been age old tactics...remember squeaky wheels get the grease?...advocacy groups have to formed...public opinion paved....funds raised....politicians to be pressurized and motivated...and then the tide for judicial reform will turn in favour of the citizens...other things have to be done simultaneously ..like police reforms...a new mind set...but it can be done...and yes, nothing in life is easy....but this approach makes more sense to me than chaos...maybe meera can add more
Lakshmikanth
URL
July 6, 2006
09:26 PM
court dates...ah yes...bribe the clerk ..and yes postponing indefinitely plays havoc with the plaintiff or the defendant...but these have been age old tactics...remember squeaky wheels get the grease?...advocacy groups have to formed...public opinion paved....funds raised....politicians to be pressurized and motivated...and then the tide for judicial reform will turn in favour of the citizens...other things have to be done simultaneously ..like police reforms...a new mind set...but it can be done...and yes, nothing in life is easy....but this approach makes more sense to me than chaos
there is only ONE pre-requisite for this:
THE PEOPLE OF INDIA SHOULD CHANGE THEIR WAY OF THINKING
Preeti
July 6, 2006
10:19 PM
Temporal
I am not bitter. No, I cant be bitter with life, it is too short.
When I was in junior college in one of the big cities of India , like others I left no stone unturned to criticize the corrupt legal system, harped (I choose this word) on how changes can happen etc. This debate of 'change happening is age old'.
During one such conversation, I do remember once someone sarcastically telling me a couple of things that went to stay with me:
1) What have I done personally to bring about a change? (my defense was: being an Indian I vote, I choose and therefore it's their job to work for our betterment ) I expect my tax money to be used better. I expect the police to protect me.
2) I was challenged by a dear friend of mine that if I ever face this calamity, I too will resort to using inappropriate dishonest methods which means I would do the way the system would mould me into or ..give up fearfully(hmmmm) . I out rightly refuted this . (this was around when famous, powerful celebrities Hrithik and SRK backtracked their statements shamelessly). My friend argued with me that they were pressured or in fear (which I do not believe) and hence they did what they did. So it was ok acc to him.
Fear is only a myth, once you conquer it -nothing like it.
I am very proud that down the years when unfortunately I saw real courtrooms(stink, sickening, vomit) and faced havoc, I did not succumb to this so-called pressure and did what I did and stood by it.
And you know what, I did not fight the system. I decided not to fight the system after how the police gave me a run around with my FIR. I gave up at that point itself about this system. The illusion/hope that I use to have that I can change the system is out of my head now.
Firstly I fought with myself that I was not going to give up (point 2) I got my way coz I wanted to strongly stay by my word , it was about my (past) harping and all about me. It was time to implement what I said.
Secondly what made a difference to some extent is coz I have a strong financial BG(Thank God for it really). Though initially this made it very...very..difficult for me as everyone was 'expecting' but tactfully I used that same power against them. By using this as an undercurrent force or as a threat to the wrong doers (that if I use my financial strength, it will work against them and can be detrimental) coz I put it across to them subtly that I can raise a huge hue and cry if need arises.
Thirdly not to forget that I paid a deaf hear to the threats I received at every stage.
I do not discuss this account or write or blog it . But someday if I see victory(after 20 yrs or so), I do intend to write about it in detail.
I come across as a very regular person , and if we ever meet, no one may even know this side of me coz I do not want to sound bitter or de-motivate others who still have hope(the way I use to).
PS: If this was to be endured by someone who is poor, he would not have been able to even lodge an FIR whatsoever. This is the helpless state of poor people in India.
Who failed Jessica Lal? It was NOT the legal system. It was not the lawyers or laws. It was her own celebrity affluent dear friends who backtracked their statements & turned hostile witnesses. They were citizens of this country who expect and harp on so called change too.
Fear - is an excuse or an explanation used by cowards.
temporal
URL
July 7, 2006
01:04 AM
lakhsmikanth:
there is only ONE pre-requisite for this:
THE PEOPLE OF INDIA SHOULD CHANGE THEIR WAY OF THINKING
agree...the question is how? what needs to be done to bring about that radical change...what would be the roles of the 'facilitators'...those there...those abroad...urban and rural folks...the coalitions that are needed....built?
temporal
URL
July 7, 2006
01:09 AM
Preeti:
there is a lot you said above
pls. accept my apologies...i feel at this point i should not have probed...you appear a brave and resolute person...more power to you...enough said...god bless and good luck!
Preeti
July 7, 2006
01:15 AM
Temporal
Thank you
There isn't a need to apologize. Am fine and chilled out.
It is the way it is.
Law of Karma is the only perfect theory and there is no evading it.
Lakshmikanth
URL
July 7, 2006
01:26 AM
t:
The change is already taking place. Any 'radical' change is most likely to be evolutionarily unstable (in all probability).
Radicalism is revolution. Revolution is reaction to some sudden stimulus. We dont need revolution, we need reforms.
More than tangible reforms we need intangible reforms, the way the people think. The way they think about sex, life, economics, philosophy etc etc.
The best example I can show is the silent sexual "reforms" that are sweeping the emerging cities in India. By sexual reforms I mean, more women are realizing there sexuality (SIF PEOPLE PLEASE PARDON ME FROM THIS). More people are becoming open to talks about sex, and sexual issues. Its a painstakingly slow process. But we are surely getting out.
India is an abyss, the only way it can go from here is up!
Cheers
Laks
Lakshmikanth
URL
July 7, 2006
01:29 AM
T: just to add, in the movie Page 3 there is a dialogue which i always keep very close to my heart, it goes like this:
In other words, Reforms and not revolution.
My personal way of life is to keep the heart of a revolutionary and to act as a reformer.
temporal
URL
July 7, 2006
10:35 AM
lakshmikanth:
mostly agree, again:)
evolve, not revolve nor revolt (in vain)
Raj
July 7, 2006
11:42 AM
For every 1 'Indian Youth' who wants construction of Narmada dam to be stopped, there are 10 'Indian Youth' who want the dam to be built. For every 1 'Indian Youth' who opposes reservations, there are atleast 2 'Indian Youth' who want reservations.
So get a brain. This 'Indian Youth' thing is not a monolith.
Stalingam
URL
July 7, 2006
12:40 PM
Red Greetings
Petty burgeoise youth movements that you have mentioned about fulfil no greater role than that of flies that hover over elephant dung.They only point towards the decay and stench that surround us,while the rogue elephant goes around rampaging unmolested .
The only generation that has anything to show for them were the student movements of 1970's when the Children of Naxalbari set India on fire.
We can't forget them,
In their blood was the deluge of the tameless river
In their hands was the dream-
Higher than the skies.
We have not forgotten them or the cause.
Prepare for the coming revolutionary storms !
Lal Salaam
Stalingam
Raj
July 7, 2006
02:05 PM
Stalingam....very soon only thing you will remember will the the pain in your ar$e when the ugly police people employed by the capitalist state, penetrate you from behind with a thick bamboo and let you rot in jail for eternity, feeding you dog food...
...sacrifices made by your comrades of the 1970s will be nothing compared to what I am sure you are gonna end up making over the next few years, at this rate...
Lal Salaam to you !!
anon-by-choice
July 7, 2006
02:34 PM
carry on raj
....... the more u rant and froth, the more u shed yr so-called modernity... n show yr mc, bc, gmd heritage
as i said, get into indian police, and get posted to bhagalpur - just meant for u!
Raj
July 7, 2006
02:44 PM
anon-by-choice..... I totally understand your feelings. I fully understand how much it hurts you when people abuse leftist extremists like the way I have abused Comrade Stalingam here, who I bet is also your gay boyfriend. My humble apologies.Lal Salaam.Inquilab Zindabad.
Sumanth
URL
July 7, 2006
05:06 PM
court dates...ah yes...bribe the clerk ..and yes postponing indefinitely plays havoc with the plaintiff or the defendant...but these have been age old tactics...remember squeaky wheels get the grease?...advocacy groups have to formed...public opinion paved....funds raised....politicians to be pressurized and motivated...and then the tide for judicial reform will turn in favour of the citizens...other things have to be done simultaneously ..like police reforms...a new mind set...but it can be done...and yes, nothing in life is easy....but this approach makes more sense to me than chaos...maybe meera can add more
The advocates and public prosecuters will lose business and money if there are judicial reforms.
The politicians and the criminal will also be in trouble if there are judicial reforms.
Now, what is left? Media and NGOs.
One is Mentally Corrupt and the others are Monetarily corrupt.
Anything left?
Yes. The Bloggers.
Now, the bloggers want to play second fiddle to all the above categories (advocates, politicians, criminals, Media, Journalists, corrupt Social Workers).
To have any meaningful advocacy, one needs to investigate and get to the truth without trusting the so called "reliable sources in media, NGOs or Human Rights Terrorists."
Sakshi
URL
July 7, 2006
05:14 PM
Sumanth - Just curious....NGOs or Human Rights and what category does SIF come under?
Raj
July 7, 2006
05:20 PM
yaar what is this pro and anti sif nonsense ? I am worried about islamic terrorism and leftist extremism and how thats gonna destroy India, and all I see here on this website is SIF this and SIF that....
...get a sense of perspective.
Sakshi
URL
July 7, 2006
05:22 PM
Raj - "get a sense of perspective"...Amen to that!
Kush
URL
July 8, 2006
03:36 AM
Rape..waht a Nobel work!!!
Rape is a better crime than became a Husabnd as per Indian LAW.
One hand our Goverment trying hard to kill the institutions of marrige, incresing the single parenting system... results just started to come.
Secondly, I have a solution " Just seal the hole" no rape will be occured.
Why we need a Hole?
As per rape LAW, there is not required that a penetration occured, there is no need that the Ball had done activity like relese...
Only thing to be proved that some thing gone in side the hole..that is rape!!!
About Indian youth, till the time such dirty/money minded/child abuser writers are availabel in DC, crime against men as well as women both will increse.
Because today we belive in Criminal activity and when we can't punish the real criminal, want to put some badeget innocent in false case to improve the stastics and expect that ..
The real criminal will get afrid and will stop the criminal activity.
Still I wonder how a men can rape a women without mutual consent , when a lot of uncle explain me that they have failed in thier first night to make a sex with thier wife, as they do not fine the hole and thier wife only help them out?
This is called Indian Youth's 16th century mind set...!!
One hand pre-marriage sex is allowed, but if you refuse to marry the same is rape.
One hand prostitution is allowed, but if you refuse to pay the huge money that is rape.
After all all are money game and very soon the new scheem on the way, the moment you say " I had been raped".. immediately our goverment will give you Rs.25000/- to Rs.2 lacks..
Great way to earning a money..naaa writer auntie??
Kush
URL
July 8, 2006
03:39 AM
"So if you are in Delhi on 23rd July, please make it a necessity to join in with these brave people and Matoo's family and support in achieving justice for our people, our nation and most importantly humanity"
- Yes also join the activity of Breaking the Judges Chair to do the legal terrorism.
Becuase mutual sex also is a rape!!!
Kill Rapist.. as more than 99.9999999999% Indian men are rapist and behind the hole .
I will be there writer auntie.. to stop the legal terrorism.
DC Bloggers
July 8, 2006
03:43 AM
@Kush - Good on you man. We are so proud of you. Pls wear a red so its easy to pin point you....and then attack your balls. :)
Kush
URL
July 8, 2006
03:59 AM
BlogerAuntie( do not have courage to come with your blog), do not get angry so much, it is your job to do the legal terrorism and it is my job to stop the legal terrorism.
Regarding balls, allready explained, Indian men's balls allready ineffective and by attacking the balls the Rape will not reduce as per Rape law there is no role of Balls.
It is the time to talk about seal the hole to stop the rape!!
Raj
July 8, 2006
04:06 AM
Haha...this Kush uncle is very funny :)
Kush
URL
July 8, 2006
04:10 AM
"NGOs or Human Rights and what category does SIF come under?"
Sakshi auntie the above is your dought in the comment section, "if your view are so narrow and every day during wash the teeth( if done) with anti-SIF for that you have to review your own face.
Where ever you will find BIF activity , SIF activity will be there.
Where ever you will see the legal terrorism by BIF people, you will find SIF people to stop the Legal terrorism.
Where ever you will find people encourage the Single parenting system, you will find SIF to stop that.
Where ever you will find Balls chop up activity, you will find seal the hole activity.
At last, criminal does not have any sex or caste, criminal to be treated as criminal and for that no whole sale free lincence, let it be rape or any thing.
Why there is no Punishment for Rape to women?
Why there is no difference between the mutual sex Vs rape?
That is the reson the rape will increse and the cry will continue and you have to spend your whole life to find the answer,
" What is SIF?"
" What is SIF?"
" What is SIF?"
" What is SIF?"....
I personnely hate BIF activity, auntie!!!!!!!!!!!!
Raj
July 8, 2006
04:13 AM
Kush uncle, are you trying to patao-fy Sakshi aunty ?
Kush
URL
July 8, 2006
05:20 AM
Not all, check the comment section...she is the best auntie for Kush.. she only offered and Kush had accepted produly.
Raj uncle hope you are planning for a good SAT Evenning,
- as you had purchased total 3 Movie ticket.
Auntie was surprised, why 3 tickets?
Your reply was, "that is for you and your parents!!!"
Right or wrong?
M
July 8, 2006
10:58 AM
Raj, what's this bullshit about Islamic terrorism and leftist extremism? Are you one of those thugs who killed thousands of Muslims in Gujarat?
Raj
July 8, 2006
12:43 PM
M (M for Mohammad ?) ....why, you dont think Islamic fundamentalism and leftist extremism are the greatest threats to India ?
Also - were you one of those wonderful muslims who burnt alive those 57 women and children in the train at Godhra station ?
anon-by-choice
July 8, 2006
03:32 PM
raj, its frightening to think that u have been let loose
Sam
July 8, 2006
04:43 PM
To Anon by choice & 1000
yes you better be frightened, coz indians for too long have suffered and killed by the minorites. Lately Christans in the west have not been spared too . Example 9/11 & 7/7
It is dangerous when Yasser Malik and his clans like you have been enjoying the freeedom and misusing it to the core., killing, killing killing in the name of religion all over the world.
It is a good thing what Osama Bin Laden did coz he definately showed the ignorant west what Islam really stands for. He definately is a symbol of their strategies.
Today people in the west when hear about Islam they FEAR. For them it is death. It is all over the local radio stations in USA. Iraq, Iran, kuwait, Afganistahn, Pakistan, Indonesia...all trouble makeing countires follow one religion. The whole world knows that.
Read this : http://desicritics.org/2006/06/14/080242.php
Watch oprah winfrey shows and CNN and BBC.
Raj my advise to you is to chill. Their fanatic games are over and their downfall has started. From here on they will go down down down and down. Unles they improve and follow humanity and stop killing.
What do you think? Only gujarat can fight back for burning 50 plus hindus in the train? If the same thing happens in Maharashtra(they dare not), Rajasthan, Tamil Nadu, Madhya Pradesh, Punjab, history will repeat itself. We are through taking their sob minority stories, where we are stabbed at the back again and again.
Even our respected President Abdul Kalam wont support them and has not and never will. Oh yes...he is a bad muslim. But for the sensible like us ..he is a Human being first, a true Indian..a man with high values who is againt war/killings.
Shabana Asmi too condemens the violent sside of this religion and she does not support these fanatics who implement jehad, fatwa, talaq(woman issue point of view), their violent killings.
For example if a non-muslim lands at london airport he is asked less questions at the immigration. It is very apparent to everyone. But dare they raise their voice over there! no way. But hidingly they definately finance OBL.
Santosh
July 9, 2006
03:31 AM
"For example if a non-muslim lands at london airport he is asked less questions at the immigration. It is very apparent to everyone. But dare they raise their voice over there! no way. But hidingly they definately finance OBL. "
And anywhere in the west. They are held up most of the times.
Santosh
July 9, 2006
03:38 AM
Sam
Mumbai is in chaos now. Your prediction has come true.
Looks like they have once again dared to mess around with the feelings of people, awakening the sleeping tiger.
This time they have crossed limits.
Righta
URL
July 9, 2006
05:36 AM
I hope this awakening gets methodical and widespread, you can always see sporadic reactions that may make u think its the real revolution.... hope this fever spreads.... becomes a value, a culture.
Kush
URL
July 9, 2006
06:15 AM
Righta uncle, today our Auntie's Idol is move valuable than Mhatma Gandhi, Netaji, Bhaghat Sigh..etc.
Insulting those Idol is not a crime in india.
This is very clear, if you are not criminal, if you are not a PIMP , you life will be miserable in India.. that is the LAW of this LAND.
But every action have a reaction , let wait and watch the fun....till the time People can't open thier eyes and indentify who is criminal and who is innocent..
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