Desicritics Comments on And Now Mr. Narendra Modi In His Own Words

Comment by MUKESH

Tue, 6 Mar 2007 15:26:37 EST

its high time our youth understands d hittler styled ruling cannot work wid present environment...people of gujarat should be now responsible enough to kick him off his throne..

Comment by balaji

Fri, 9 Jun 2006 04:14:48 EDT

Every religion sees the other as infidel. Heard something called 'mlechhas' in sanskrit? That is the problem. Religion is the cocaine for people. One gets delusions of grandeur. Every one who is Muslim is not a terrorist. Every Hindu is not a murderer, because a yadav or a sharma were involved in murdering a girl for not serving liquor. As simple. Categorizations are mental structures to understand the world. Not to become hostage and slaves of them. and abandon critical thinking. Do all Americans become criminals for some Americans who abused prisoners at Gitmo or Abu Ghraib? Sanity demands that when one deals with criminals that one does not become a criminal in thinking. and doing. and communicating. Jingoism, like most other isms is that - an ism. Most of the isms have become wasms. Mind often acts like a Lemming. The one that we hate consumes us so much that we become the other. Imitate the other. Act out the other. And enter a never-ending abyss of human darkness.

Comment by Santosh

Thu, 8 Jun 2006 23:45:07 EDT

Sanjay, You said it!! Islamists all over the world have to change and believe me ...in the west they are feeling the heat and being pushed. The extreme words or theories they use like 'fatwa' and 'talak' are being disowned by them--especially the younger generation. But in India we have a long way to go...what with our politicians only interested in vote banks.

Comment by Sanjay

Thu, 8 Jun 2006 23:26:14 EDT

Frankly, I don't see the purpose of Hindu-Muslim conflict. I really feel that we have to change for the better: We need to convert the conflict into an Infidel-vs-Muslim conflict. Rather than being narrow-minded and identifying ourselves as Hindus, we should be more inclusive and identify ourselves with the broader infidel non-Muslim community. This will allow the conflict against Muslim fanaticism to be more effectively waged -- and won. No point in settling for stalemate, when progressive people from all communities can join hands to bring defeat, despair and self-doubt to the Islamists. The Islamists will not be able to change for the better unless they are pushed to. That's why we should wear the Infidel badge with pride.

Comment by balaji

Tue, 6 Jun 2006 11:08:32 EDT

That's too much for some one who does not need it. Like this biased stuff about lawyers. Lawyers pl pardon. What is the difference bettween a bucket of crap and a lawyer? Ans: The bucket. Any ways. I must congratulate Mayank for bring out the best in each one of the commenters. Hat's off Mayank. Often, truth hurts! Funny the ways of the world. Secularism had to be discovered to deal with bigotry. I guess we need to find a newer word for secular. Probably - being human? Humanism?

Comment by Gaurav

Tue, 6 Jun 2006 09:04:55 EDT

The shortest path to secular pantheon, take a crap on Modi.

Comment by Mayank 'Austen'

Sat, 3 Jun 2006 01:26:35 EDT

Balaji, a salute to you. I feel I'm in some company after all! Thanks.

Comment by Aaman

Fri, 2 Jun 2006 13:31:04 EDT

Balaji, write for Desicritics - see this article and email me.

Comment by balaji

Fri, 2 Jun 2006 13:25:12 EDT

And another thing, i forgot to mention. When Raj says Modi won the elections, and that he represents the will of people is another lie that the way our electoral democracy is 'designed'. What percentage of votes did Mr. Modi poll? 100%? who is this we, when Raj says that any one who is against Modi is against Gujaratis. Aren't Muslims from Gujarat Gujaratis? I know some of them who ran away from the state and came down south to make a living. They speak Gujarati! and the women dress like Gujaratis. Till i spoke to them I could not figure out that they were Muslims! Mr. Raj, I am sure you would agree if there was a representational democracy, i.e., seats in the Assembly or Parliament are alloted on the basis of percentage of votes polled, which is a better representation than the mangled system that we have, I guess you would see that Modi does not represent 100% of Gujarat. Forget about every one in Gujarat. He would not even represent 100% of Hindus. Are you saying that those Hindus, forget about Muslims for a while, who do not or did not vote for Mr. Modi are anti-Gujarat or anti-Gujarati? I know in this part of India some very nice Gujarati's. I grew up with them. I thought they were nice people. Peace loving people. If all Gujaratis are your type, I would be ashamed of being calling myself Indian with such a 100% hatred mongering, vengeful, violent, Gujaratis being a part of India. I need to check my history or some ancient history or archaeology. Probably, the Father of Nation was not a Modi type Gujarati. Probably he was an Indian. I would like to be called that 'type' of Indian. Even when pseudo people who can't do their math, and allow their thinking go to sleep call me pseudo this or pseudo that. Pseudo is a lie. Modi, for what he seems to have said is a liar. You decide, sir who is psuedo. Roads, do not make a nation. Nor some cement and concrete which which would allow us to drive fast. I guess, in my humble belief - people make a nation. Their behavior determines the character of a nation. True democracy is when even people who disagree with you have a space. I am happy this space is offering enough 'space' to the venom, basal instincts bordering on inhuman, not to speak of intolerant ideas. Let thousand flowers bloom and million thoughts contend. Thanks heavens, there is tolerance - however mauled, still alive! Cheers.

Comment by balaji

Fri, 2 Jun 2006 08:18:46 EDT

I guess I would agree with anish, Mr. Raj seems to engage from a victim mode. This is the powerful theme that our BJP and people similar would like to create in the minds of the majority, a fear psychosis, making one feel inferior etc., etc., on things. Well, I agree that Modi is democratically elected. So is Bush (sic)! The question is what is Raj Dharma, as the statesman, Vajpayee seems to recollect? To create hatred? To kill people, and encourage state's participation? I do not know if Modi is like Hitler or whoever. The issue is that he is a liar. If he ever said that 'hum paanch and hamare pachees'. Any one who has done high school statistics, and studied civics a little can see that it is a lie. If every muslim man were to marry 4 women, there should be 4 times more women among muslims? is it true? if it is not true and if it is that the ratio of women to men is close to 50:50, then for every muslim man getting married to 4 women he is depriving at least 3 other men. And the number ofchildren that can be produced at any given time is limited by the number of women. Theoretically, women can produce 35 children. How many of Hindus from the earlier generations had 2 or 3 children? They definitely had more. Everyone had more children, since the infant mortality rate was high. Infant mortality comes down with income. Kindly, check out, the average number of children born for Muslims could be marginally higher than the average of MIDDLECLASS Hindus. But it would not be statistically different from poor Hindus. Hence compare it with like. You do not compare apples with oranges. So poverty is the issue. And how come as Hindus we need to feel inferior? what is is rubbish of pampering the Muslims? If they are pampered they should be doing well in life is'nt it? How come they are poor? How come they do not represent their numbers in every walk of life? The whole 'p-sec' is created by mischievous people to mislead. It was created because they were not able to come to power. Because Congress could get the Muslim votes. If BJP is smart, they should court Muslim votes by promising heaven like most politicians do than create hatred. Lies which do not create hatred to me, seem better than that create hatred, mayhem and social instability. Hence, for me Modi is a liar (if he said, what he said), and a liar who is out create fear psychosis in the minds of ordinary Hindus. To create fear in the minds of Muslims. Scared people vote with their feet. And any one who wants revenge, must be living in a 'jungle'. Any one who kills is a criminal. There are no Hindu, Christian, Muslim, Parsi, Gujarati, Marathi killers. They are KILLERS.and CRIMINALS. and must be dealt with so. It is like saying that it is OK if I am raped by a person from my community. A rapist is a rapist. a CRIMINAL. and must be treated the same way, - irrespective of his faith. cheers.

Comment by Raj

Wed, 31 May 2006 09:19:45 EDT

In 2002 state elections BJP won just over 2/3rd of the seats and 75% of the votes cast.

Comment by Aaman

Wed, 31 May 2006 07:13:46 EDT

What was his margin of victory in the last elections?

Comment by Raj

Wed, 31 May 2006 02:14:48 EDT

That is why we people of Gujarat take any attacks on Modi personally. Because when you attack Modi, you attack us. Because we see Modi as our true representative. And the best reply we can give is to flock to the voting machines on election day and vote for Modi or any candidate representing Modi's party. We love democracy !!

Comment by Raj

Wed, 31 May 2006 02:09:53 EDT

Anish - 'Mein Kemp'is one of the most popular buys on Amazon.com. I am not aware of its sales in India , but it is popular all over the world - in US, in Europe, in Australia....so what are you trying to say ? It is fasionable among self-proclaimed secularists top demonise Modi, so they spread many lies about him - something we Gujaratis are very used to and aware of. What p-secs fail to understand is that Modi is no 'chota-hitler'. Modi is just a democratically elected 'chota-ghulam' or servant of the Gujarati people. Modi is the best servant we people of Gujarat ever had.

Comment by anish

Wed, 31 May 2006 01:53:11 EDT

I was talking about the general popularity of mein kamph in india - you get to see copies everywhere - not particularly among the rss though its founders admired hitler and mussolini greatly. this is what happens when you go into a victim-psyche - you feel that everyone is taking advantage of you and being unkind to you - the muslims, the press, the modi-haters. the whole world seems to have conspired to victimize poor poor modi - our own chota hitler do you think it is so easy to dismiss anything uncomfortable as 'a lie spread by modi-haters and pseudo-secularists' :-p open your eyes adios amigo

Comment by Raj

Wed, 31 May 2006 01:24:06 EDT

This is what I want Modi-haters to understand. Modi only is a faithful servant of the Gujarati people. He does what we want him to do. We want Narmada water, Modi will fight tooth and nail to get us the Narmada water. We want better infrastructure , Modi will get us better infrastructure. We hate corruption. So Modi has computerised the administration , making corruption almost zero i our day-to-day life. We wanted revenge on muslims. Modi let us have our revenge. So Modi is only our servant , and the best we ever had. Modi does not rule Gujarat. We the people of Gujarat rule Gujarat. So what are you gonna do about that ?

Comment by Raj

Wed, 31 May 2006 01:19:18 EDT

Anish - Nazis/Hitler killed jews, not muslims ....why do you think we like them ? This a lie spread by Modi haters. Infact only 2 weeks back Modi went on a 4 day trip to Israel to strengthen ties between two highly developed states - Israel and Gujarat. He was given a royal reception there by the people of Israel. And whats this stuff about 'law catching up with Modi' ? Whose law ? Modi is only the servant of the people of Gujarat. If this Modi goes away , we will elect another Modi. This is the power of democracy. Isn't it ?

Comment by anish

Wed, 31 May 2006 01:11:53 EDT

everyone knows what happened in gujrat and who did it. bajrang dal, vhp, bjp, congress, tribals incited by vanvasi kalyan ashrams, police, bureaucrats, and of course the chief minister. some were truly brainwashed with hate while a few were in for the loot money and the chance to molest women. some had come to finish off their business rivals. talking about taliban, left&congress hypocrisy, anti-sikh riots etc will not dilute the repulsiveness of the inhuman acts in gujrat. it is sad that people worship hitler. so many mein kamphs get sold in india. if only they knew someone who was sent to a concentration camp. It is important to ask for what had hitler achieved all the economic progress. To enslave the world for his blond blue-eyed 'Aryans'. please note that Indians were not Aryans according to the nazis. So you can imagine what life would have been if germany had won. i want to remind modi&rss-admirers that there exists something called the constitution of india and it will catch up with him one day.

Comment by Raj

Wed, 31 May 2006 00:58:15 EDT

What the critics of Modi fail to understand is that Modi is a democratically elected representative of the people of his state. He is no dictator. He is the humble servant of the people of Gujarat - those who vote for him. Modi only does or says what we the people of Gujarat want him to do or say. We are Modi's masters.This is the charm of democracy.

Comment by Anon

Wed, 31 May 2006 00:18:54 EDT

>:D<

Comment by Santosh

Wed, 31 May 2006 00:17:09 EDT

Starting a big project like Narmada has everything to do soemthing with religion symbolgy. He did what the people of Gujrat , the majority who votes for him , wanted him to do.

Comment by Santosh

Wed, 31 May 2006 00:13:05 EDT

And Mayank , I will tell you how liberal Modi is!! The comments that you have been making about Modi(who has won be democratic elections), feel free to make it in from of him too...you will be scot free with no harm done. Try making the same comments about Musharaf(who is a dictator in Pakistan since eternity) and have a death warrant issued for yourself. This is the differnce. I wish Modi would have been non-democratic, non-secular, unjust...then today people like you would not have dared to say a word.

Comment by Santosh

Wed, 31 May 2006 00:09:29 EDT

What is wrong with what Modi said on population? It is true. So what if he bought it during Shravan, that is the apt thing to do. And ya ur right congress would have bought it during Ramzan....it is all about votes for Congrees and its insecurities. Wake up.

Comment by Raj

Tue, 30 May 2006 23:50:16 EDT

The deleted comment (minus the 'personal attack') went something like this ... ...basically Modi is only a representative of the people of Gujarat. He does what we - the people of Gujarat , and a wide section of the hindu population of India, want him to do. So dont blame Modi, Mayank 'Austen', blame us ,the people of Gujarat. We are Modi's masters. It is because of us that Modi remains in power. And will continue to do so as long as he does our bidding.

Comment by Lakshmikanth

Tue, 30 May 2006 12:25:04 EDT

Basically Modi is all evil, in the broad daylight... pretty much the same is the case with every fucking politician in India... There is indeed not muchc difference. The difference pro'lly is in the fact that Modi says what he does, while the others don't. Theives are theives, whether they steal in broad-daylight or in the middle of the night. The only difference is that Modi can be crucified because his statements are outright communal, apart from his behaviour which is also communal. The other politicians ARE communal, though there statements are not:- Called Pseudo-secularism. I dont know which is better pseudo-secularism or communalism. One kills openly the other kills siltently... I would say both are the worst options that we have. If there was a candidate saying NO-OPTION in the election ballot of India, probably NO-OPTION would become the prime minister of India.