Desicritics Comments on Sameer Patange: Master of Body Art

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Comment by smallsquirrel

Wed, 1 Jul 2009 07:45:08 EDT

Dee, you are right, many cultures have a rich form of art using tattoos, and the maori are a great example. also many tribes in africa use scarification, which is the cutting of the skin in patterns.. sometimes they rub ash in the wound to make the scar a different color than the other skin. I, myself, am in awe of the full body murals that some Yakuza have, drawing from a long tradition of Japanese tattoo art. I have many tattoos, but my first was a moon, as moon was my first word and I have a strong memory of seeing the moon during many important situations in my life. What is interesting is that if you saw me in my street clothes, you would never know that I have tattoos. Hell, I wore a saree for my wedding and no one saw them. so there goes the "disfigurement" theory.

Comment by Deepti Lamba

Wed, 1 Jul 2009 00:17:34 EDT

In India tattooing is no big deal in fact its a thriving tradition where women get their husbands names tattooed on their arms and tattooed religious signs are quite popular in our rural areas. Tattooing is - so called art? When creativity is expressed using whatever medium and whatever surface it is considered to be art. It may not be to your liking but tattooing is an ancient art form and I absolutely love the Mouri face tattooing traditions.

Comment by Aditi N

Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:26:58 EDT

Ravi honestly I'm smart enough to know that lectures don't work on those who go around doling out bullshit as if they were so much smarter than everybody else. Half the time you have no clue what the hell you are talking about and fyi your patronizing is just nauseating. And please spare me the lame justification, you are not giving anybody any medicine here. You have engaged in this ad hominem totally unprovoked on this thread while on previous forums you have served lengthy sermons about how now matter what debates should not get personal etc. I would not care to lecture a hypocrite. There would be no point.

Comment by Ravi Kulkarni

Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:15:37 EDT

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Comment by Ravi Kulkarni

Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:11:31 EDT

Dear Aditi, I am just giving a taste of their own medicine to some of the PC brigade on this forum. There are some of these people here who get personal and insulting very fast. So spare your lecture to those who indulge in such practices more often (and you know who they are, being in close proximity and all...). Regards, Ravi

Comment by Aditi N

Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:32:25 EDT

Ravi: Cut out the condescension please. Firstly, tattoos are NOT permanent and you are the one being dumb and ignorant if you don't know that. Practically all tattoos are reversible and can be removed or reversed. And tattoos are not considered "disfiguring" either. YOU consider them disfiguring and others don't so to me it seems like you need to be the one respecting other people's opinions and not SS. She is merely introducing you to an alternative way of thinking and asking that you not use condemning terms like "dumb" which somehow question the intelligence of people who have tattooes; that is a shallow stereotype. In the medical field when teenagers and women lose hair and eyebrows undergoing chemotherapy permanent tattoos are used to give them these features and re-enforce their confidence during a difficult time. Is that dumb or disfiguring? You are the one closed to alternative perspectives believing as always that you are right. Stop calling people names (What is this: primadonna, hysterical? Are you fucking kidding me?). This whole preachy sermon tone gets really old really fast and the "Dear" doesn't help.

Comment by Ravi Kulkarni

Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:14:49 EDT

Dear SS, And you need to be a little less of a primadonna and hysterical. I wasn't talking about a little name in sanskrit, but so called "art". It IS dumb because they can't be removed easily and it could easily and does often become embarrassing later in life. One can buy all kinds of art to demonstrate one's taste in art, but disfigure yourself permanently? I think that's dumb. Regards, Ravi

Comment by smallsquirrel

Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:13:43 EDT

uh no Ravi.. you began by saying that "permanent tattoos are just plain dumb" which is a narrow minded and ridiculous statement. maybe you don't like them, and that is your prerogative. but they are not "dumb" if you had said that you felt they were unattractive, I would have not responded, as that would be your opinion...but your comment was silly, and showed that you know very little about why people get them. for example... having my daughter's name in sanskrit is not an act of rebellion or fashion, as you implied that all tattoos are. you need to learn how to have a reasonable discussion. I do respect differences of opinion. I do not respect sheer ignorance.

Comment by Ravi Kulkarni

Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:01:06 EDT

Dear SS, You need to respect differences of opinion. It has nothing to do with broadening the mind. To me it appears dumb that's all, I am not calling for banning of tattoos or anything like that. Regards, Ravi

Comment by smallsquirrel

Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:16:00 EDT

well Ravi, some people get things that mean something to them and have nothing to do with fashion. mine have absolutely NOTHING to do with being rebellious, and if you knew anything about the history of tattoos, esp in Japan, you might well know that. I have had my tattoos for about 15 years now and they are as special to me, and look as good as when I first got them. Maybe you need to broaden your mind.

Comment by Ravi Kulkarni

Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:02:24 EDT

I just think permanent tattoos are just plain dumb. Fashions and personalities change over time. What is fashionable and rebellious today could look silly and outdated 20 years from not, not to mention 50 years from now. So if you have to get a tattoo, get a temporary one. That's just me. Ravi

Comment by smallsquirrel

Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:18:35 EDT

I wish I had seen this while i was still in India. I have a lot of tattoos and would love to have gotten another... just did not know whom to trust. I think what should have been said EXPLICITLY here is that if you do not see an autoclave in the shop for the equipment, and if you do not see the artist unwrapping your hygienic *single-use* needle and pouring your own ink, then leave. not worth taking a chance with hep, aids or whatever else you could catch. PS one of the foto captions is wrong, unless, of course you did mean geometric shapes and not angels. LOL.

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Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:34:40 EDT

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Wed, 31 May 2006 12:43:55 EDT

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Comment by Righta

Wed, 31 May 2006 10:05:54 EDT

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Comment by Kanika Nagpal

Wed, 31 May 2006 02:56:34 EDT

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