Desicritics Comments on The Indian Army In Kashmir - An Invading Force

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Comment by Not-Anamika

Sun, 15 Jul 2007 00:20:32 EDT

Indian Army is a terrorist organization, do you know how many women they have raped in Kashmir. Three days back itself, villagers caught them red handed and paraded naked.

Comment by vinod

Sat, 14 Jul 2007 23:07:55 EDT

I am sorry that you are a rice eater and didn't know this .. plenty of people in rural areas use fields for 'sanitation purposes'. There's a reason it's called urine... it's the presence of urea, the primary component in any fertilizer. Think about that the next time you gobble down your chow. The STD thing: it wasn't right what the jawans did and they knew it. No wonder they walked away when the Officer showed up.. which then proves that the command and control is intact. You cannot judge my country's actions in Kashmir as an occupation based on your 2 silly examples. If you give power in the hands of anyone (even you).. sooner or later they'll misuse it. Read about the prisoner-guard psychological experiments carried out in the 1970's in the US. Doesn't have to an 'occupation'. The person abusing the power could've as well have been a local policeman. The key thing to remember is that a higher Officer restored the law.. which is the way it's supposed to work in a professional army when a lower ranking soldier(s) get out of line.

Comment by Sanjay

Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:47:37 EDT

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Comment by Intrepid

Tue, 22 Aug 2006 12:08:51 EDT

Morquendi: What surprises me most is that you haven't yet been "accused" of being a Muslim. I espoused a similar viewpoint elsewhere, and was asked - horror-of-horrors - if I was an Indian Muslim to actually have the gall to propose an alternate viewpoint to the mainstream. Sigh...

Comment by Aaman

Tue, 22 Aug 2006 08:48:29 EDT

Understood - the incoherent nature of the comment made it clear it was another person

Comment by Sanjay

Tue, 22 Aug 2006 08:18:43 EDT

Please note that the above post is not mine (I regularly post as 'Sanjay' with a capital 'S')

Comment by sanjay

Tue, 22 Aug 2006 07:52:37 EDT

most of muslims are militents, the are against hindu of kashmire (pandits) , human vilotions are only with army , not other muslims of kashmire the 100% human viliont

Comment by Righta

Fri, 26 May 2006 03:10:33 EDT

Urine is a good fertiliser, those Jawans had only recycling in mind, see the glass is half full. Jawans are underpaid and one of the things which make them place their lives in the line of fire is the raw rage which is cultivated in the bootcamps. Its not a justification its a fact. You want to blame someone, blame it on the unseen faces which pull the ropes tethered to these Jawans.

Comment by GB

Fri, 26 May 2006 00:39:18 EDT

are u sure you had landed in the places mentioned in the article are in India or by chance u had done the same in Sri Lanka? I mean given the nature of climate in J&K what are the odds of there being a lush expanse of paddy fields?

Comment by Shreeganesh

Thu, 9 Mar 2006 19:18:46 EST

Damn. This is such a simple solution. Maybe the UN/US whoever should go to kashmir, stay there for a whole 2/3 days. Even rent a houseboat and experiance the local life. Then they will be able to see the entire situation with clarity and provide a solution. Thank you for solving the kashmir conundrum in a couple of days. I will start a petition to make the India government remove its army for its own sovereign soil because a Srilankan deduced the pulse of the kashmiris after diligent research lasting 2 days.

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Thu, 9 Mar 2006 07:55:10 EST

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Comment by Abhishek

Thu, 9 Mar 2006 05:55:53 EST

How about the authoer of the post getting a middle finger?

Comment by varun

Wed, 8 Mar 2006 14:04:33 EST

i dont know who you are...but i cant believe the way you have arrived at the conclusion by citing the such incidents, that indian army is doing whatever u think they are!!on the basis of actions of couple of soliders, how can you ever think of calling the indian army an invading force??? i have stayed in srinagar and areas ahead of srinagar for 4 years when i was a child, when my dad who was in the army was posted near the border...and you say that you just have to stay there to get the real feeling??? utter rubbish,, is all that i can say!!!! anyways... carry on writing it would be interesting to see whether you opinions change in due course of time or not!!

Comment by harty

Fri, 24 Feb 2006 07:01:06 EST

The problem with economic development of Kashmir by India, is that the Kashmiri politicians (likes of Sheikh Abdullah and others, authentic kashmiris) have framed laws which do not allow industrialists to buy land in kashmir, cannot take profits out of kashmir, cannot hire any outsider in kashmir, and so on. How do u run an Infosys or TCS or Reliance from Kashmir, without bringing in your managers and top level technical executives, who would know the ins and outs of the business? Agreed, let the kashmiris start in such industries, gain experience and then control these companies. Nobody would start business in Kashmir till they are allowed to run it as a business.

Comment by harty

Fri, 24 Feb 2006 06:57:40 EST

Look, Kashmir is not just a piece of land for India. Its that province which has been the gateway to India (along with the hindukush range). You dont give the door of your house to anyone, no matter what the cost. Otherwise, your house is open to all and sundry to see and come and loot and what not. One always wants the control of one's door. The point is, once Pakistan was created, and positioned as anti-India (along with a religious angle to it), India had to have Kashmir as its door. Would US allow Texas to go with Cuba? Did Europe allow Polland to go to Russia? Talking about self-determination, there are always limits within which it is allowed. Does a parent allow his/her child to play with a real gun, no matter how bad he wants it? Do you allow a depressed relative to jump of a 10 storey building, no matter how bad her problems? The answer is no. The answers have to be found within a boundary. And for Kashmir, India is the boundary. They have to find solution within India.

Comment by D. Kaul

Fri, 24 Feb 2006 01:23:59 EST

you're should have read as your

Comment by D. Kaul

Fri, 24 Feb 2006 01:23:23 EST

And the second scenario was rather lame and laughable. Sure it isn't great to make the fields you're washroom but how is that an atrocity???? Glad you honour the rice fields as much as you do, but so that doesn't happen as much in most of Northern Indian as we are aware of the lack of public washrooms. I may not want that in my own fields but I will not raise red flag on abuse or atrocity. Irrelevant point.

Comment by D. Kaul

Fri, 24 Feb 2006 01:20:18 EST

I have a question: What about addressing the bullying and terrorism of Islamic militants? Ok so say Indian Army pulls out- give them independence how the hell are we to ensure that Kashmiri Pandits will find their place, that Buddhists shall not be kicked out? The premise and argument for independence is not that the King at one point decided this but that a HINDU king decided for a MUSLIM majority. I find that very disturbing- that religion decides who does or doesn't make decisions for the country not the person's ability to do so. Rather nice- p'haps rest of India should revolt that a Sikh and not a Hindu is the PM. Good lord what a shame that is. Bullshit. The logic behind this independence is flawed. We have a big problem if religion becomes as important as this and the rights of other natives, Kashmiri Pandits, Buddhists etc. are ignored to appease the majority.

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Thu, 23 Feb 2006 13:47:29 EST

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Thu, 23 Feb 2006 13:41:29 EST

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Comment by Mr X

Thu, 23 Feb 2006 13:11:29 EST

let me get this right, he criticized India's lack of nuclear weapons delivery systems...that's hilarious man..its great he is so concerned that we don't have the proper delivery systems..maybe he has not heard of Prithvi and Agni, Sukhois. Mirages etc etc.. seriously this cracks me up, he has a problem that we cannot use our nukes properly ? what good are nukes if they cannot be used..i agree..we should develop a few mopre ICBMs and test them on Colombo and Kandy...