An Interview With Paritrana
Vikas Chowdhry
Ever since this news item was published in the Times of India about Paritrana, the political party formed by ex-IITians, I have been excited by the story. Of course, like everyone else I was curious to know more about the people behind this effort and about their ideologies. The TOI article was rather cryptic. The article in Indian Express today is more elaborate but not enough to satisfy the political junkie in me. Paritrana's website right now is a work in progress and while the blog world has been buzzing with this news the details were scant.
So I decided to call up the number listed on their website to get someone from the leadership to answer a few questions that I had. I was not very hopeful because I was sure that their phone lines and emails must be ablaze with messages from all over and an amateur blogger like me would not get the time of the day. To my surprise, every time I called I was greeted with a very modest and down to earth Chandrashekhar who is the national treasurer of the party.
After a few phone calls from me, he agreed to field some questions on the condition that I make it clear that when he spoke to me, no one else from the leadership was available to answer my questions and that this post on the blog be only treated as a rough draft and if he has anything to add/modify then I'd allow that. I readily agreed and here is Chandrashekhar answering the few questions that I could muster up at a short notice.
I spoke with him on the phone with no recording device and I was transcribing his answers in real-time so there might be some small things missing or incorrect. Please do not take these answers as something set in stone or as a formal policy of Paritrana. This was a very informal chatting session. However, the crux of this entire conversation was that these guys have taken a formidable step and now it is upto people to come forward and support them. Even if you do not want to joint the party and help at ground level, go ahead and help in whatever way you can. From technical help in maintaining their website to donating money to providing moral support, every bit will help.
Question: First of all, congratulations at the formal start of your party and the amount of excitement it has created in the media. Indian Express reported today that you plan to contest assembly and parliamentary elections. Are all five of you in the core leadership committee planning to contest for elections simultaneously or would you concentrate on one person at a time?
C'shekhar: We have been working through our personal resources and help from friends. But in the end, the amount of work we are able to do depends upon the amount of resources that we have. In assembly elections whether a person can contest an election depends upon the domicile of the person willing to run in the election. So each one of us will contest as and when the assembly election in his region are held. As for the parliamentary elections, simple policy is to do whatever can be done. If we have more resources then we will do more, it could be 5 people, 50 people or 500 people depending upon our funds.
Question: Right now, is this party your full time profession or are you also working in a regular job? If the party is your full time profession then how are you supporting yourself and the party financially?
C'shekhar: It is full time for us. We have been working on the social aspect of some of these issues for quite some time now. But eventually we have realized that without participation in the mainstream politics there can be no change. This party is a result of a long effort - it is not something that was conceived overnight but ultimately someone has to bell the cat. Efforts at a personal level in social field can only take you so far. If you want to help make structural changes to how things function then you have to contest and win elections. As for the finances, we have been supporting ourselves through personal resources and help from our personal friends.
Question: How can other Indians help you? I know that you have a website and a form for becoming a member but one of the most immediate needs for you if you plan to contest elections would be having adequate funds. Do you have any setup through which people can contribute financially to you?
C'shekhar: The Election Commission has archaic rules that require a form to be physically signed by the member on paper and pen. They don't acknowledge electronic registration. You can use the form on our website to let us know that you are interested in becoming a member. Eventually, we will have a membership drive in your city and we will be able to contact you based on the information that you provide to us on that form. Right now we have no formal setup through which people can financially contribute to us. We have been working on the formal setup of this party since November but we were taken by surprise at the amount of support we have been receiving. We are in the process of having a formal setup through which we can accept financial contributions from supporters.
Question: Have you been contacted by any regular politicians? Any invitations to join their party? Any notes of congratulations?
C'shekhar: No. Nothing from any active politicians.
Question: In the US, a guy called Howard Dean tried running for the post of US President but was defeated fairly early in the process. His big chunk of supporters were young and technologically savvy people who were tired of politics as usual. When Mr. Dean lost his own bid for election, he started a movement where he asked for his supporters to continue donating money for the cause he was fighting for and he supported people at grassroots to run for local elections. It seems that you are pretty much addressing the same constituency. Would you sometime in the future consider a similar move where you encourage responsible students to start running for elections in schools and colleges to not only lessen the hold of criminal elements in grassroots level politics but to also encourage middle class, educated people who usually do not consider politics as a career choice?
C'shekhar: We don't have a structure right now for those kind of things. As I said earlier, we have limited resources and whatever we get we will throw it in the field. People are giving a lot more support than we expected. I don't make promises that we can change the system but it all depends upon the support of the people.
Question: Are you in general a supporter of globalization or your ideology more in tune with the "Swadeshi" line of thinking?
C'shekhar: I've been writing about it, for instance the theory of justice. This is a topic that requires a more nuanced explanation and I have been working on preparing some formal documents on this topic which will eventually be available through our website. But in short you don't have to stick to a theme. On any issue you do what is good for the people regardless of being an ideological demagogue. For example Indian industry will need some protection but we also need foreign companies for the latest technology and to encourage competition.
Question: What do you think about people who oppose any sort of relocation of people for industrial growth (for example Arundhati Roy)? Are you against any kind of industrialization that leads to people being removed from the land that they have occupied for years?
C'shekhar: Relocation of people for supporting growth is a fact and cannot be wished away. What is important is that there be justice and transparency in the manner in which government interacts with the people who are getting displaced. Growth will lead to conflicts in the society but they need to be dealt in a fair manner. Some people will never agree to change but we cannot stop progress for them. For example, the road that leads from my village to town is U shaped because the farmer refused to release the land. But interest of a few people cannot be used to obstruct a dam or an industrial development that will help the society as a whole. Bottom line is that you cannot set a fix policy without taking into considerations local parameters.
Question: People in India usually hold politicians responsible for holding India back. But it is also true that people get the leaders that they deserve and that decisions are made by people who show up. Middle class Indians are notorious for not showing up. Not only do middle class Indians don't consider politics as a profession, they also as a demographic, vote less in percentage terms. Is your step a wake up call to the educated in India to take up the task of cleaning up politics on their own rather than playing the blame game?
C'shekhar: Of course people should be responsible. But people are less interested because they have lost hope. We have been observing this pattern that people don't come forward because they have lost faith. It is not a question of class. If you've not been on the ground it is hard to understand the level of hopelessness. You don't get the information from media. The facts are distorted and missing in media. Popular voting is constantly going down, people are losing faith in democracy but media does not always report it.
C'shekhar: You say that people are losing hope but then what about the rapid economic growth? With 7-8% economic growth, all the multinational companies in a mad rush to set up centers in India, it seems to me that an average college graduate has a much better chances of getting a job compared to five years ago. Why should they be hopeless?
C'shekhar: On the ground there are still people who need to be taken care of. People who can speak English are the ones getting most of these new jobs but are they representative of India? That is a miniscule percentage of the population of India. My classmates from the school village school are still hardly earning anything. Call center and outsourcing opportunities are limited to people who can speak English. Media tries to highlight just this success story and not talk about people who don't speak English in villages. For the media, the story is people getting jobs in call centers or outsourcing industry, going to new malls etc., but is that population a good representation of Indian ground reality?
Question: Politics in India can get violent and Tanmay himself was roughed up sometime ago in Udaipur by local police. If your party starts winning elections, you can certainly expect some kind of violent reaction from the entrenched political class. Are you mentally prepared for that?
C'shekhar: We are aware of that kind of activity and inspite of that we have entered this arena so we are psychologically prepared for this. We are prepared for such outcomes. I do understand that there are risks involved but something has to be done by somebody.
Question: Finally, with all the media attention focused on your new effort, you must be overwhelmed by the emails and telephone calls. I am sure many of us would only be too glad to help you out as much as we can. If people want to help you with things like maintaining your website or creating a donation channel through an online service like Pay Pal I am sure that you just have to say the word. If anyone wants to help you out, should they just send you an email at the address listed at your website?
C'shekhar: We are preparing the structure on how we can receive all the help. People should keep visiting the website. We of course welcome any kind of help that we can get. Right now I am taking care of maintaining our website but if we can get a professional website developer to take the responsibility of maintaining our website and/or setting up an online donation system as a way to help us then I would certainly welcome that.
More about Paritrana's ideology on Desicritics
Vidya attended Paritrana's meeting in Chennai and has a good follow up post here
An Interview With Paritrana
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rahul
URL
February 3, 2006
09:11 AM
great...keep up the good work...the entire nations youth is with u..its time for us people to revamp the black cloud that is there for so long on our indian politics..all the best to u guys..
rahul aggarwal
deepti lamba
URL
February 3, 2006
09:22 AM
Cool, we need some new blood in Indian politics :)
chaitra
February 5, 2006
06:03 PM
hi
I know everybody of us has lost our faith in Indian politicians, and it is obvious being suspicious about this party, but sometimes we have to believe in somebody and be their supporter. And I know if they are successful in fulfilling the common man's expectations they will soon achieve their goal. And I am waiting for the well structured "Paritrana" so that I can help them in right way. Right now instead of forwarding some stupid messages and pictures I am trying to send this information to all of my friends so that I could collect more supporters for these generation awakers...........all the best and I am with u .......................and vikas please try to provide us as much information as u can...thanks a lot
Shweta
February 6, 2006
01:12 AM
Hey Vikas good job ... Amazing .. feels good to know that someone somewhere is really trying and now we also know that we can do our bit by helping Paritrana!
Maria
February 6, 2006
05:35 AM
Atlast,there is hope for our India!!!
its started,but i hope its not gonna stop!!!
lets make india a better place to live in...!!!
its really Amazing....
Indian politics would be something to talk about everyday "NOW".!!!
I AM PROUD OF U GUYS!!!
Lets all try to put our part of help into PAITRANA...!!!!
Aditya
February 6, 2006
11:19 AM
Sarfaroshi ki tammanaa ab hamaare dil mein hain....dekhnaa hai zor kitnaa baazue kaatil mein hai!!!!!!!
I would like to know how I can hlp the party. I checked out the website but it is under construction. How can I spread the message and len my support!
Way to go Paritran!!!!!!!!!!Swades beckons you!!!!
Anonymous
February 6, 2006
12:17 PM
A good start by indian youths and I'm sure they would soon achieve their goals with this kind of spark in them.
Btw, I read the same interview in a blog http://www.arthshastra.com/archive/paritrana-getting-to-know-a-little-bit-more
Not sure which one was emulated...
bhushan
February 6, 2006
12:20 PM
Hi,
I extend my full support to your party.India is in dire needs for a revamp in her political system and this initiative must cleanse her off from the self inflicted damage(by her own sons and daughters--the politicians).Its known that IITians have lead India in her quest for becoming the technological superpower and i hope this initiative from the IITians helps India to become a political superpower.Cheers to paritrana....
Aaman
URL
February 6, 2006
12:20 PM
The author of Arthshastra is a Desicritic - and that is cross-posted here by him
Aaman
URL
February 6, 2006
12:21 PM
I mean, the author of the Arthshastra blog is a Desicritic
Anonymous
February 6, 2006
12:50 PM
Aaman, Thanx Dude!! I was confused by the names and I realized it after seeing the blog. Apologies for confusions.
Aaman
URL
February 6, 2006
12:57 PM
No sweat - Desicritics is your source for news plus opinion:)
dkaps
URL
February 6, 2006
03:56 PM
I have just one critique of this effort - and it is meant to be constructive.
It seems pretty obvious that elite educational credentials has been the main criteria of this group's membership as yet. That lends it to be an elitist party.. and not a common man's party. The "camaraderie" that I have seen amongst IITians and other elitist alumni is very damaging when it comes to open minded thought circulation.
I would have done it differently - with initial members comprising of a poor but thinking-though-uneducated farmer, an educated farmer, an educated businessman, an NGO worker, a techie, and a go-getter housewife.
The sooner this party can let in common man.. though insisting on certain belief system guidelines.. the better!
All the best though..
Cheers,
Desh
Drishtikone.com
Mallikarjun
February 7, 2006
06:58 AM
hi frds,,,
very nice to here this news...
All the youth must support Paritrana...
dont search for new blood, use our blood and brain to implement the society,,,,
ARISE...AWAKE,,,, UNTILL reach ur GOAL......
ALL THE BEST to PARITRANA///////
Mallikarjun
nitian
Dr.Vidyasagar
February 8, 2006
11:14 PM
timely initiative. pl.involve all sections of society. democratic functioning with collective leadership ensures its success. more than money, individual integrity and sacrificing nature are to be encouraged in the party. network with all likeminded political individuals who have social interest upmost on their minds.i am ready to join the march of people.
kvsagar2
anonymous
February 9, 2006
12:50 PM
Hi,
this is really a good start, i think people should come forward and support this kind of initiative's .... hope they (paritrana's) will reach the people's expections . if we want to really see india bright we should give them a helping hand....hoping that they will not dissapoint us.
veena
February 9, 2006
02:26 PM
It is a music to ears that Young that too IITians are getting involved in the politcs. It is high time our youth are waking up and getting involved. I think if more of our youngsters that too IITians India will become the best country in the world to live in. The new ideas , new way of everything . Like Chidhambaram and our priminister would put new demisions to government.
Hurray for Indian youth
veena
Ambar
URL
February 9, 2006
02:45 PM
Desh, spot on. And like i've said elsewhere, this party has no solid ideology or even a trace of ideological clarity. Until they do, they can't be taken seriously and will be at best a glorified NGO.
Meenakshi
February 9, 2006
06:49 PM
well its definately gr8 to hear bout these guys but i m doubtful as to how long will they work with this conviction. i just hope its remains the same through out. only then can we say that yes these guys have made a difference. its an initial stage and we should give them a chance to work and then deicide.
vipin
February 10, 2006
12:51 AM
hi! happy to see that uch a political party ha come out but i agree with dr.v that it should involveevery strata of the society. they have attained the mileage for their profile now its the turn of their work to prove that what they have got is what they deserved. thinking is right and road aswell all that needs to be seen is the patience and endurance of these bravehearts! we all support you...hope i am right and not over optimistic when i say...here we begin!!!!!!!!
R.A. Masurekar
February 10, 2006
04:53 AM
Hi Friends,
The emergence of Paritrana is something we all have yearned for. I believe this party stands for justice, equality and prosperity of the people of India regardless of the religion, caste or status.
One neednt look at a full time political career. Even if a few honest and educated youngsters join this party and work part time in the evenings and week ends, it is good enough to get a strong foot hold in the decayed Indian polical scenario. However every indivisual joining this party needs to be honest, educated and cultured with a single detrmination of reviving India into a prosperious and a corrupt-free country. I am sure while there will be thousands who will join this party as active members, other silent millions will vote for it. Those youngsters (18 yrs- 35 yrs) who are either college students or educated professionals, officers, businessmen etc presently residing in Mumbai, Thane and Navi Mumbai and who wish to be a part of Paritrana, please mail me your contact details and current job/activity to honestpoliticians at hotmail
Haris
February 10, 2006
07:49 AM
Letz all start with an intellaction tht each of us is gonna 50 odd ppl around us to join the party... If we achive this goal..w.e'r almost done.
Haris
February 10, 2006
07:53 AM
Let us all start with an intellaction tht each of us is gonna CONVINCE 50 odd ppl around us to join the party... b it our neighbours our kaam wali bai or our regular baniya...letz 1st target the masses and develop the awareness among them... If we achive this goal..we'r almost done.
shravan
February 10, 2006
08:07 AM
hello there,it is very interesting to see two brilliant young engineers with iit b.tech degree
have decided to join politics.this may inspire some
and some others may criticize or laugh your sincere efforts off.do not care about such people.
paritrana is a new party started by educated dedicated young men,this is completely against the typical indian politician or atleast his image we have made in our minds.it would be very interesting to see how these dedicated individuals intend to change the way politics is done in india.the important question is how do you begin and where do you begin.chandrashekhar has made it very clear about his intentions to contest the election.i assume these guys aim to win seats for themselves and on doing so do their work in a clean way an ethical way.it is a very noble intention indeed.but you see out of the scores of politicians and bureaucrats a handful of then=m are good.just adding two more will not make significant difference.what india needs is a political party that can sway the people.terrific orators are what we need.social service is good but to make changes on a national scale this is not enough.chandrashekhar and his comrad must remember that even to do good to the nation they will have to stick to the traditional way of doing politics.leaders who have a vision for the nation to become a superpower and who have the ability to SWAY THE PEOPLE are what we need.
i may actually one day end up becoming a friend or a partner of paritrana.if i become a wealthy man i will definitely provide paritrana with the required funds.guys in paritrana must remember that if they want to do good to the country they must aim not to become an mp or an mla (and spend the money they receive properly, which must be done ,what i mean to say is that it is not enough.) but to aim at the highest position of power to become the prime minister of india.people of paritrana must ask themselves this question whether they aim to achieve a place for themselves
at the highest office(which alone will help india)
Vasanthraj
February 10, 2006
07:34 PM
This is what India needs badly.
I am Indian (Singapore PR), I personally feel that for outside world India is BOOMING if you see from inside it is full of TERMITES.
We need a strong Troop to make India BOOM from within.
Keep Up the Good Work Our Full Support is with You.
Aaman
URL
February 10, 2006
10:20 PM
We need Donald Trump
sunnny
URL
February 10, 2006
10:52 PM
great i am pleased to see that anybody who has knowledge is going to utilize it for the welfare of our country ,this a daring move and many youngesters are going to get the paltform who were willing to do such but not getting the right paltform .we should feel proud that still india is same as we were when we were not independent still we have guts to make our country best
sunny
URL
February 10, 2006
11:00 PM
lets help the party to fulfill the aim by helping them through any resource .As its our responsibilty to help them as they have taken the great step for the coutry.
Sarfaroshi ki tammanaa ab hamaare dil mein hain....dekhnaa hai zor kitnaa baazue kaatil mein hai!!!!!!!
So lets start .As india needs this again.
Aljo Johnson
February 11, 2006
02:27 AM
Hey guys,
It takes guts to take such a decision especially when there are so any other avenues open for u guys....
U guys should look to be more media savvy and start getting the word around.... mebbe visits to educational institutions lookin for volunteers...and spreading your ideology..
Regards,
Aljo
Aaman
URL
February 11, 2006
11:29 PM
You should do a follow-up interview if there are updates
Arun Kumar
URL
February 12, 2006
08:31 AM
I request all people who appreciate the work begun by paritrana team to please consider devoting some of their free time to spread the news about paritrana . Start off by giving introduction about paritrana to all your firends and relatives and telling them to do the same . This will be enough on its own but if tntrusted you can also write letters to editers which appear in most of the popular news papers.Anather suggestion is to print and distribute small tamplets containing introduction about paritrana and distributing them in professional colleges.
Prashant Malik
February 12, 2006
01:41 PM
I strongly support this party if they stand up and do something for the good of our country. It will be nice to see few IITians paying back to India.
Jalpan Patel
February 13, 2006
08:21 PM
Its very very nice to hear that, after all our people has shown their activeness. wt r v expecting from our current political parties and corrupt politics huh? r they goin to do better? even, such politicians still there in India's politics those are unable to stand up without support..!! and how can they make India to stand up in world's map?
at this time PARITRANA has to prove its ability and has to successfuly solve the purpose, for which they have stood up..! Me and not only me, whole India's youth is ready today to stand up for our county and in support of PARITRANA against corruptions, and all disorders of the country and country's politics. Such educated and youth political party can surely make difference for the country.
I from Gujarat, but now in Torotno, Canada for my post graduate study. i hv gone through PARITRANA website but its under construction. whenever PARITRANA needs me, I will be there for it with my whole support for the country. I wuld like to join PARITRANA asap.
so, pplz, stand up for our country, lets get together to make our country better then yesterday, and lets fight again this corrupt politics and politicians. PARITRANA has shown us the way to do soemthing for our country, and lets do it.
JAI HIND
Lakshmikanth
URL
February 13, 2006
08:28 PM
All the best for Paritrana. I would certainly would like to be a part of this organization!!!!
puttu
February 14, 2006
02:10 AM
hello
this is prashant all the way from dharwad from karnataka
first of all, thanks and hats off to "PARITHRANA " group for giving a new opening by which
we can say in future that our country is "developed" country.We all have a tinch of patriotism
but it needed someone to exhibit it .
We r a group of people where we publish some articles in our magazines, keeping in mind the "VISION 2020"
i request parithrana group to allow us to post our articles on their websites
Subramanyam Kasibhat
URL
February 14, 2006
02:27 AM
Paritrana is a good idea! I want to be part of this.. I will contribute my best to make it successful.
But the reality is, it looks to me like history is repeating.... Even in this era of communication, I see a Mangal Panday in the making...From the gist of what Chendrashekar has conveyed, I feel, they are not at all geared up for a big bang.. They seem to be at an infant stage with little or no planning.
Dhruv
February 14, 2006
02:42 AM
nice to read all that.. but is it really true ???
being an India, i am not sure about.
if this is true.. my all wishes are with u people..
Ravi Pandey
February 14, 2006
06:39 AM
"Chalo 100 crore ki jansankhyaa waale desh me kuch log to hain jo shaayad sahii soch rahe hain.!!!"
In this country out of 1000 only 10 think right and hardly 1 does the correct implementation.
I really become frustated when I see the behaviour of the citizens that results out in hazarduous outcomes due to which the society as a whole gets affected.
I am surely going to join this group and make many more like me to join it;would also request everyone to visit it's website and give any sort of good help ; whatever an individual can.
"ALL THE BEST TO 'PARITRANA' FOR MOVING TOWARDS THE RIGHT PATH."
Souvik
February 14, 2006
12:13 PM
Inability in prolonged sustenance of purpose remains to be a folly that has plagued our generation. Enthusiasm comes in strange ways - seldom is jingoism recognized in its true form. Honesty in purpose/intent will remain the only fuel to drive a movement - so best of luck !!!!
alfarid
February 15, 2006
01:56 AM
One has to be part of the system in order to understand it and change it from within... Play a conformist and climb up the social hierarchy in order to eventually exercise power and ' make a difference'.i really appreciate the bold step taken by you people. but again i would also take in consideration what shravan has to say about the whole scenario.i have read your ideology and i liked it. but you guys have to make ur stand clear as on what basis you are contesting the elections.i would not at all agree to the dislocating of people for the sake of industrial development.i see reason why people like arundhati roy stands against this.let me tell you that you cannot lay the minorities' land as a sacrificial goat for the sake a majority. i wonder how can you be so sure that you would be able to do justice when u say, 'there should be a fair way in dealing with situations like this' when you yourself is not yet on the minister's shoes. history(from all countries, one eg. is china)tells us about the amount of sufferings these so called minority people has gone through due to the dislocation for the sake of industrial development. remember once you are in power you would be responsible for even that one person in the minority and cannot wash your hands with that.
i wish you all the best but must say lots needs to be done to get the real souls to paritrana. i am trying my level best from my side.
Lakshmikanth
URL
February 15, 2006
02:22 AM
alfarid: u mean to say disloacting the 'majority' is ok???
or are u saying that Paritrana will contest the election and then dislocate the minorities????
The moment u are shouting 'majority' or 'minority' that moment u are dividing India and seeing it in a partial manner.
I have been very critical of such ppl. and u can read my previous comments on that.
Dont fall for that 'majoriy-minority' trap dude, we have already divided india to a large extent with that stupid argument. be an Indian.. and do not view things in the myopic vision of majority and minority.
bring some valid argument in.
alfarid
February 15, 2006
02:51 AM
lakshmi,
if u got my point right the 'minority' i mentioned here was not based on any religion or community or culture and i dont see how it is dividing the country. u also need to analyse why did i bring this word for.what i was against is the dislocation of the people who is very few in number. if u know, this has been a issue since ages in india and there has been several movements based on this.u just can't oversee/neglect these things and favour dislocation as people even though 'few' (i dare not use minority as i dont know what interpretations people makes out of this) suffers a lot.when u say,'is dislocationg the majority ok?', i ask u one thing 'is it ok vice versa '. i never said, 'paritarna will dislocate the minorities'.on the contrary,i put forward a simple question. if they say that things should be dealt in a fair way, what are the ways??? u seem to be pretty overconfident about your understanding.but please go thru what i wrote again.u might change your mind.these kind of destructive criticism should be rather ignored.
and if u have some valid points about the dislocation issue, i would love to hear. otherwise no point in taking this forward.
Lakshmikanth
URL
February 15, 2006
03:16 AM
alfarid: destructive indeed... if the argument is not sound then it can be criticized... destructively too.
heres my argument:
Point #1) Majority, Minority, 'Very few people' or whatever lines u are dividing India on. People get HURT when they are dislocated.. ALL indians do get HURT. I dont quite UNDERSTAND why some very few people should be given such special consideration which u are demanding. I guess that means we have to formulate something FAIR. irrespective of caste creed or whatever and IRRESPECTIVE of the POWER that the individuals who demand development excersise. Fair ways means Fair to all Indians. That results Plainly from Paritrana Being secular and not partial to ANY group, caste, religion, creed or whatever.
Point#2) My overconfidence/ confidence level is a non issue here. Only thing u have to care about is my argument. If u cannot counter that with reason and make such blatant personal statements without knowing me personally or what i have experienced then i think there is no point in continuing this any further. I would call upon the editors to note that this is a personal attack and the comment should be moderated.
This post is about the ideology of a party or a group of individuals with a particular political interest. And they have been secular.
I guess that justifies it.
alfarid
February 15, 2006
04:24 AM
well well well....did i anywhere in my previous posts doubt the secularity of paritrana? no offence meant friend, but u strayed away the point yet once again.and sorry to say that i didnt get a valid answer to my question about 'dislocation'.u wrote everything about secularism, defining and describing how to write criticisms and on top of that complaining to the editors about how you feel.i deeply apologise if it offended you, but i have taken whatever you wrote in ur previous posts by my stride.anyways friend, u are welcome to do whatever you like.
and now coming to my point about dislocation and why i am not convinced about it, just one example to cite(i have many),in the shivsagar district, there was a proposal to built the national highway at the cost of the lands of the poor farmers used for cultivation which is their only means of livelihood.the government promised great things before occupying their lands but fulfilled none, turning these peasantry class people into beggars.there were many articles written on the local newspapers but of no avail.later on ongc published a report that the highway could have been paved through some other areas of the forest region and with same the funds that was used for the construction of that highway.but the point is that these poor people got homeless because of this as the government was not being able to provide them any alternatives.
my point here was not to discourage paritrana's efforts. even i am actively involved in campaigning for them even though im not in india, as i see a hope in them.but issues such as these are sensitive and should not be taken superficially and definitely its a valid argument.
And Fair ways means Fair Ways to all Indians ....All indians, mind it.not excluding a single soul.
and if someone is saying that for the interest of the country we sacrifice a few, i dont see it justified.I see a division here.
my question still remains unanswered, what are the alternatives?
Lakshmikanth
URL
February 15, 2006
05:36 AM
yeah... now u are making sense. Now lemme tell u why i got into whatever you said.
There is a nuance of difference between.
And Fair ways means Fair Ways to all Indians ....All indians, mind it.not excluding a single soul.
and your earlier argument.
i see reason why people like arundhati roy stands against this.let me tell you that you cannot lay the minorities' land as a sacrificial goat for the sake a majority. i wonder how can you be so sure that you would be able to do justice when u say, 'there should be a fair way in dealing with situations like this' when you yourself is not yet on the minister's shoes. history(from all countries, one eg. is china)tells us about the amount of sufferings these so called minority people has gone through due to the dislocation for the sake of industrial development. remember once you are in power you would be responsible for even that one person in the minority and cannot wash your hands with that.
Are u being fair here.... by dividing India into majority and minority? this is in direct contradiction to what u said earlier!!!!
you go further by stating it in different terms
what i was against is the dislocation of the people who is very few in number
farmers and poor people are not minorities. They are the majority... otherwise India wont be addressed as a poor nation. So u have a flaw in your example of the poor farmers as well, eventhough its just a technical error.
Minorities are people who are smaller in number due to some reason like language, caste creed. thats exactly how u call the people who are few in number.
If the govt. was fair it would have not build the highway through such a thing in the first place. Or if it were that necessary to dislocate then they would have compensated the farmers adequately.
I would have agreed to you IF u say our fellow INDIANS are suffering injustice and unfairedness from the government. Rather than use terms such as people with very few in number or minorities, which indicates that u are becoming communal and against secular spirit of our nation.
Lakshmikanth
URL
February 15, 2006
05:47 AM
The solution to the problems u posed boils down to secular(and that means UN-INFLUENCED by ANY religion caste or creed), unbiased, and unoform education of the people, reforms.
many people advocate enforcement. Enforcement is a quickfix which will create even more disharmony among the already divided people (divided along 'majority' and 'minority'). The solution is eduaction and reforms.
alfarid
February 15, 2006
05:56 AM
so to u minority represents only religion????cant it be a community, a region, etc.whats in ur mind dude?i never mentioned anything about religion here,i never even used the religion wrd here, or just by speaking of minority brings thoughts of communalism to ur mind.u left me confused dude. u need to go thru it again.
the minority i spoke about here is tht small segment of people who we are makiing scapegoats of. i will get back to you on this. i have a lot of points to contradict you but unfortunately the library closes now. but i promise i will get back to you on this tomorrow. btw did do proceed with ur complaining process..lol, just kidding!!
sukonya
URL
February 15, 2006
06:31 AM
[EDITED - PERSONAL]
Lakshmikanth
URL
February 15, 2006
06:36 AM
no more comments... i think i have told what i have to tell....
btw.... communalism is not religious for me... i think the OBJECTIVE definition of communalism means u are supporting one community of people, be it religional, regional, racial etc etc etc.
u are welcome to point out my contradictions. But before that lets atleast agree upon common and easily misunderstood definitions of words like communal etc. Secular is the exact opposite of communal as defined a paragraph before.
again i reiterate, for the final time... think about India, Indians... and not majority, minority, 'few people', mumbaikar , adivasis.. or whatever divisions u can think of. be secular and not communal. We all are humans.
Lakshmikanth
URL
February 15, 2006
06:50 AM
sukonya: i am not trying to WIN a debate here. nor am i trying to test a person's secularity.
I argue for my knowledge gain. It does not matter if i win or lose. If i lose, i still grow in knowledge. If i win, the opponent grows in knowledge. In either case we both win.
i am trying to weed out some wierd terms.. for example the word 'minority'. And the word 'Communal' which many people mistake for religious communalism. get out of india and u will see racial communalism, nazi communalism and all other sorts of communalism.
anyways the whole point of my debate was this instead of thinking short term, lets look at secular education as a long term solution. Of course justice cannot be done in one day.. but in the long run it sure will be done.
i am also against quickfix solutions like enforcements, reservations, favourable law enforcements etc etc.
Lets think of long term solutions and reforms for all of India and Indians, instead of communalizing people based on any lines. That is my other argument.
I also agreed to many points of Mr. Alfarid. Somehow people think that i am in an argument for the sake of winning an argument.. thats strange!!!!
Vikram
URL
February 15, 2006
10:01 AM
lakshmi,
i have moved out of india long back.So I know what kind of divisions are there in the society.I have been working in the UK since the past 1.5 years buddy and I have seen that the sections of the society who keep on holding to any bias are the least developed ones.And the ones who are unbiased are the most developed ones.I stay in Leicester which is one of the most multi racial cities in UK.The other day on the occassion of Guru Nanak Jayanti,there was a big procession of Sikhs throughtout the city.The guys staying opposite my apartment suddenly threw some eatables on the procession.Within minutes police came and apprehended those guys,despite the fact the both the police nd the culprits were goras.Thats the essence of a civilized society,as a whole..where ppl who bhave in uncivilized manner will b brought to books no matter if he/she is ur kith or kin.even here there are radical white groups but the fact that majority of the ppl r logical and practical,these groups remain subdued.my plumber,who is a sikh frm kenya narrated how kenya was a wonderful country before independance.As soon as they gained their independance,they started driving out all whites and indians.and about the state in which kenya is now we all know.As far as I feel,multi racial and multi cultural nations are the most developed ones.I know I am diverting frm the topic.But just wanted to jot down some points i have been thinking about.I feel if we indians can forget all the differences and look at things from the prospective of one big nation,we can prosper more.
deepti lamba
URL
February 15, 2006
10:14 AM
Sukonya, your comment seems like a good post in making :)
Lakshmikanth
URL
February 15, 2006
12:47 PM
Yeah.... i agree to you sukonya.... and that essence of honesty which u saw in those gora policmen would come about in our country only through secular and uniform education.... now where was i going against that.
Note that i too yearn to see a developed homogenous India.. just as much as you do. I respect your path that u and Alfarid have taken, i respect the fact that you may have actually done something towards it , and i feel ashamed that i did not do my bit.
But that does not hold me from questioning your methods. That does not hold me from proposing what i think. and that does not hold you free from criticism.
Our aim is the same... but our paths are different thats all.
Also i would say that i lived in some of the most rural areas of India. Eventhough i am 24 years old , i have had some wonderful experiences back home. Much to the kinds that u mention. And the solution , the path to it is NOT fighting for the 'minorities'. I will post about that later.... somehow i am not getting words to write about all that i have seen. Its a private experience and a disturbing one too!!!
Cheers,
Lakshmikanth
Lakshmikanth
URL
February 15, 2006
12:50 PM
correction: 'homogenous' means everyone is free and open.. does not mean that only hindu's or any other people should only be in India.
Vikas Chowdhry
URL
February 15, 2006
07:22 PM
I am really heartened to see a healthy debate going on around here on the topic but I am also concerned about skepticism of some people towards this party. For a long time we've seen that the highly educated rarely join politics. The ones that do join are either corrupted by it (Narsimha Rao?) and other are not able to play by its rules (Manmohan Singh who was defeated in a South Delhi accident). I only hope that it will be different for these guys.
alfarid
February 16, 2006
12:35 AM
hi laksmi,
i m back again. sorry to be this late in getting back to you as my tutor was just not releasing the class.bugger!!!(sorry for the language, editors).even now im divided between assignments and all this and work but still i feel so forced to write. dont mind my broken english as this is not a planned write-up.
ok much has happened since i left yesterday, but i thought a lot about it whole night.at first i thought of starting this all over again but much has been said and i dont want to make this bad too.but definitely the issue was not about minority or majority.my point was about the dislocation of the people. when i said minority, i meant that section of the poor people who suffers.and why are we so scared of this word, minority?why do we feel that it would create communal tension or a division? the word 'minority' means a group,very few in number, unique( i didnt use different) from the rest and thats it.but i think its an important word.had there been no such word, then it would be only the rich, the high class, the high caste, the high... speaking, deciding..and thats division.its not dividing, its making a small group's voices heard which would have been lost otherwise..
ur words
'farmers and poor people are not minorities. They are the majority... otherwise India wont be addressed as a poor nation. So u have a flaw in your example of the poor farmers as well, eventhough its just a technical error'..
really disheartened me. as u interpreted a wrong meaning out of what i said. definitely they are not minorities by number, they are minorities by power. tht makes it clear i guess.and india is not addressed as a poor nation for its farmers. if u know,agriculture builds the indian economy and its because of them we are what we are today. we should be greatful to them and not blame them for the country's poverty.and if u are talking about numbers to prove the minority here, i was not speaking about the entire nation but of the people of tht specific area in sibsagar and those people who were affected due to dislocation. and this was an eg of the 'after-affects of dislocation' and not 'Communalism'. the context i used the minority word never meant dividing the people.what saddened me was that you saw these two words, MAJORITY and MINORITY but not the core word DISLOCATION based on which i made the comment.i would have agreed to you if you had placed some statements for why you believe Dislocation should be favoured.that would have been far more informative to me as well as the people who are reading this.rather you sensitised the topic straying away from the main point.
when you talked about communalism..the nazi communalism, racial communalism.....i must say that you are right here. communalism exists everywhere.but i dont hesitate to say that it exists more in india then any other country.india not only suffers from religious communalism but also racial communalism, regional communalism and i dunno what else.india might not accept the reports of undp out of shame or whatever but these are facts.i myself has gone through all these but never let myself get affected by it.when we talk about other country, we should also peep into ourselves first (in some corner if not in public).how much are we fair in dealing with situations?name any situation.lakshmi, i would be happy if such words gets eliminated and i would be the first one to congratulate you on that.but you just can't eliminate a word just because you feel you dont like it.we have to work to eliminate these words.we have to eliminate it through our actions .just eliminating the word and not talking about it would be like solving the problem on the surface when the roots are still underneath, if tht makes sense.
notable social workers,writers, academicians are studying and working out to solve the disclocation issue if u know. and thats the reason why the interveiwer questioned him about this. had this not been a valid topic(like the way you mentioned)he would not have been bothered to ask tht question and Chandrashekhar would not have bothered to reply.
when you say' that the solution is not fighting for the minority'.i could see that you want the benefit of society in general. but does this society includes its outcasts too?.fair enough.but what if the society is being benefitted at the cost of a few souls? even one soul matters.and if it doesnt we should stop carrying the banner of democracy,secularism, unity in diversity, multiculturalism, etc etc.
as u said, at the end of the day we like our bharat to be clean, healthy country.true. lets join hands now and work.and ofcourse only constructive criticism is welcome(not pointing to u but in general, dont get me wrong, please please please..lol)
i have so much in mind but right at this moment my duty is towards my studies. i will keep posting
Aaman
URL
February 16, 2006
12:39 AM
Alfarid, if you would like to be a Desicritic, please email me or see this post
Lakshmikanth
URL
February 16, 2006
12:54 AM
yeah.. true. alfarid deserves to be a desicritic.
I kinda attack people when they use terms such as Majority, Minority... or special rights etc etc. As i said earlier. We need to clear the terms first 'Communal', 'Majority', they mean really bad things.
I have a very constructive argument for your problem. Which i consider to be legitimate.And that argument should tell u WHY i always say fighting for minorities is NOT the solution. Anyways I should be posting it within a week.
Cheers and keep up the good work
alfarid
URL
February 17, 2006
01:11 AM
aaman,thnx!!ur invitation made my day. and i would love to be a desicritic and contribute as much as i can as i contemplate on these issues a lot.but i was not able to email you as there were some problems with the mail server when i clicked on the link.and i dont know which id to post to show my interest. if u could help me out with that, it would be great.i write blogs on yahoo 360 but its not at all social. i write my own weird stuff.
why i think i like to be on the critic's shoes?i know lots of people blames the critiques that they just sit on their executive chairs in their a.c offices and critisize whatever they see.but i would totally disgree to such a thinking. as we need critics as much as we need planners. not everyone's job is to make decisions and plans. we need people to think over it and point out the good and the bad. but one's criticism can really influence the mindset of the people and hence i favour constructive criticism which is backed by facts and references.though i dont say tht my criticism would be totally academic as i think i need to read a lot on that, still i would try to back it with reasons. and thats what i think constructive criticism is.and even a critique can be criticised.though my previous posts got a bit personal since it was addressed to me, i personally think while making a comment we should not take names.thanks for your time.
alfarid.
Shridhar Rathore
February 17, 2006
03:13 AM
It is really nice to come to know that there are at least some people in this country who prefer to do something to improve the condition of this country, rather than to sit back and curse the present system.
Hats off to you all, I am surely going to join this party. Please carry on the good work started by you: we all are with you-- "Best Of Luck".
I request everyone to join this party and give whatever support that is possible.
"Ab bhi jiska khoon na khaula,
khoon nahi wo paani hai,
Jo desh ke kaam na aaye,
Wo bekaar jawani hai"
SunilKumar
February 17, 2006
04:07 AM
Hi Vikas...very good work yar, till now I too have thoughts of starting a political party but my personal things became as obstacles for me. Now I got a chance to work for the people who have the same thoughts as of me.
Ganesh Kumar
February 17, 2006
04:57 PM
Hi Vikas
Could you forward contact details of Chandrasekhar. Treasurer of paritrana? Their website is asking for password !?
Jai R
February 18, 2006
03:11 AM
Its absolutely amazing that someone from us have finally put their hands up & taken the plunge into the cesspool that our political scene has become. I tried accessing their website but it seems to ask for a username & password. Can someone find out how to access the site & mail me at jsr_diamond. The server name is yahoo.com.
I am sure that lack of funds will not be a problem for them as there are plenty of Indians just waiting to support somebody who they are willing to trust, which cannot be said of many in politics today.
I wish them all the luck & will spread word as soon as their site is easily accessible for all. Lets hope that they turn out to be the real-life reincarnations from the film YUVA!!
Arun Kumar
URL
February 18, 2006
04:58 AM
I heard that Paritrana has updated its website i.e. installed member password protected access . I hope this meanes that they are ready to release their first members list shortly .Does this mean that Paritrana will start its activities shortly . If true this is a great news . Something i will look forward to !!!
Yashesh Bhatia
February 18, 2006
12:11 PM
Arun: - Not anymore. Just checked the website right now (18th Feb, 10:44pm IST) and no password is needed. Did see that problem in the morning though.
Bharat Uday Mission
URL
February 18, 2006
12:18 PM
may be you guys are interested at another budding political party with over a reach of thousands of members, www.bharatudaymission.org
Lakshmikanth
URL
February 18, 2006
12:20 PM
Bharat Uday Mission: i have heard of u guys... IIT powai rite???
Best of luck for u too...
Pratyush
URL
February 18, 2006
12:23 PM
So who is going to vote for the BUM? :D
Lakshmikanth
URL
February 18, 2006
12:34 PM
:D
Sashi
February 20, 2006
11:44 AM
We all here are pretty exited and want to see some noticable breakthrough in todays politics.
All the best guyz.......We all r with you !!!!!!!
Ayush Aggarwal
February 21, 2006
08:37 AM
hi ,
i know this is the right step forward we just need to push it to greater heights. how can one join the party? information is not readily available.....kindly let peple know more about this regard
Aaman
URL
February 21, 2006
03:25 PM
alfand did you email me yet to be set up a desicritic?
Tafazzul
February 22, 2006
06:50 AM
I hope India is going to see a new morning with the son never shining like this.This is great to see such educated people took the charge to lead one of the oldest and greatest civilization ever born in earth.I certainly want to be a part of PARITRANA.
manish jadhav
URL
February 22, 2006
11:16 PM
finally somebody is serious about the corruption, chaos, ignorance and callousness that mark the indian political climate. 6 iitans have done what all of us atleast momentarily have thought about doing. they have created a political party with the ideology of addressing the problems that plague our country. they are backed by techincal and social knowledge and look competent and confident. i salute these people for their grit and determination. they are headed by tanmay and chandrasekhar. iam a techie and i want to contribute to this brave initiative in all ways possible. lets give this platform a voice that would deafen the ears of the archaic, putrid, stinking system
that stares us in our face every waking hour. 7 % growth, call centres, outsourcing, malls, amusement parks, condominiums and fancy lifestyle is all good. but that has happened only in the cities. there is a vast majority of the people out there who dont have access to housing, land, education, medical care, micro finance, legal help and what have u. take some time off and think hard. if your neighbour is poor and hungry and uneducated dont go blaming him for breaking into your house and stealing food or money. rise above religion, cast , ethnicity and move that complacent ass. your grandchildren would be grateful to you one day in the not so distant future.
alfarid
February 23, 2006
12:28 AM
yes, aaman. i have emailed you at your gmail account. thanks:)
Bharat Sunkari
February 23, 2006
02:34 PM
Hai I am really happy to know that five students have started such a party with aright motto to fight from the root cause. There are many students and people who think in the same way and they want contribute for motherland. But there was a need for start and the start this iit'ans has given is mind-boggling. I am sure this would change the system.
karthik
February 23, 2006
06:45 PM
hello indians,
The rebellion has started. lets unite together apart from cast and creed. come on guys and gals of indian now we have to act as a worrories to break the barriers that blocks the development in india. now we have be a good farmers to remove the weeds that prevents the growth in our nation.plz dont concentrate on filling your pockets. if this kind of politics still persist then in future our grandchildrens will not even have proper food and sheltter...................
give me the sword i am ready to fight in the battle.... jai hind
karthik
satish
February 26, 2006
12:35 AM
I am with u ....and I will find more for us ...lets make the future of India rather than waiting for it to happen .
cheers
js
Umashankar
February 26, 2006
01:12 PM
Nice to see something going on... I am with u ppl... all the best...
Rupesh
February 27, 2006
04:34 PM
Really gr8. Looking forward to join/help "PARITRANA".
Aaman
URL
February 27, 2006
04:35 PM
Vikas, you should do a follow-up post on this org. with sign-up details, perhaps
vishal
February 27, 2006
04:59 PM
This is is the rising of new india, we need to have more young blood coming into politics.I take this opportunity to thank all the IITians who took this brave step to float a political party.
Good Luck We are with you
Vikas Chowdhry
URL
February 27, 2006
09:15 PM
Aaman,
I will definitely do a follow up sometime in near future.
Vidya
URL
March 5, 2006
02:08 AM
Paritrana sounds hopeful, at the same time there is this fear that these young fresh minds would soon be dragged into the mainstream and tainted by its corrupt practices... "Surviving in politics" and "doing good for the society" are two mutually exclusive things...
I only wish Paritrana does what it claims to; of course they'll have to move about very carefully. People in politics today are more willing than ever to sell their souls to the devils!
rahul Mulchandani
URL
March 5, 2006
03:44 AM
Join Paritrana
sheetansh kaushik
March 5, 2006
12:08 PM
if nostradamus said then now is the time for us to start working at it . we need to change the way we look at india now for it to have better fuure that is true to its abilities.
democracy has lost its mening in INDIA and the micrscopic level at which exist is not gonna do us any good.we have to come out in open clean the dirt.
and the paritharan is now the podium at which we can do the needful and more.
I interested with my heart in this drive and will at anytime give my full support.
please do mail as to how i can be
vaibhav singh tomer
March 6, 2006
11:04 AM
it is great to hear such news.
i m very excited abiut the party.
is there any criteria for jpoining or supporting your party concretely.
plz inform me
ramesh kumar
March 8, 2006
07:50 AM
I don't think they have criteria in place for joining the party right now. Actually right now the Party registration is pending to ECI. So once that is over then they will drive to all major cities of india for join drive. So i think
the registration process will take few more weeks after that they will invite peoples to join.
I am waiting for that, so come on guys we are youth power and i think if we will work with unity and this enthu we can make India better, although its going to take time, but it has to be started from some point so here it the time..
Sankari
March 8, 2006
02:18 PM
It's really a good news for all Indians. At this moment, I really feel proud being an Indian. It is a dream come true for every Indian. Paritrana, ALL THE VERY BEST for your all your steps towards making India a better place to live.
p r avinash
March 20, 2006
11:22 AM
hay u ppl r really plannin for something . best of luck .but i must share few things with u ,being a young blood myself i m also tempted all the time 2 start a political party like this time and again . but as i come from a small town in northern bihar i ve somereally very hard facts which i get 2 se first hand , like politics in most of the part of india is not a game for a law abiding person like me and and manyoter youngsters like me. u ve 2 b the goon urself or atleast ve their support cauz the system function tht way only these days. ppl use all shorts of violent measures 2 win votes and other unethical measures . more over the gross illiteracy poverty and socioeconomic backwardness of the ppl does not allow a progresive viepoint like an educated youngster like mine 2 flourish. well ok u r froom iit i ve done my mbbs from one of the best medical coleges of india so wat ? wat can we really do for the masses still livin in some paleolithic age for their betterment , something they think is really for their betterment , well if u also comefrom a grassroot village like i do u must b gettin wat i mean. all said and done its a nice noble idea . well if u start registration for members in ur party i will b one fo the 1st 2 join it. we can change india for better but it will require perseverance .and we will do it. i m willin 2 give my full support to this cause.best fo luck.p.s plz do notify in natinal dailies if u start the memebership camapaign. well i m 23 has just finished my mbbs and right now studyin for civilservices exam .
chetan
April 26, 2006
10:09 AM
I Think "Paritrana" should take up a issue of "Reservation based on the economic background of a man than the caste based one".
which would make "Paritrana" an out of folk party. hence making it party with a difference, posing the modern and young india.
mohammed tabesh
URL
August 16, 2006
04:28 PM
hey...guys u guys hav taken extremly good step,even i wanna b apart of ur organization...so cud u plzzzz tel how can i do tht..or how can i get a membership in ur organization....SAR KATA SAKTHE HAI LEKIN SAR JUKA SAKTHE NAHI....PROUD TO BE INDIAN
keta meera sahebu
URL
May 23, 2007
04:00 AM
Dear sir,
I have gone thorugh the intervies. It is nice. Many a times just dreams are not going to help. To day there are many poiticians who would love to eliminate corruption. There are many who like future should be good. Therefore if we are looking for a quantum jump, we want a great change in shortest possible time it must be backed by a great theory. Great idealogy and a great vision.
It is that vision and a goal and a path is put in my web
http://www.q-jump-india2015.com
to day this web is more than 1500 pages . In two years time it will grow to 6000 pages and addresses all these issues.
This web is being visited by many eminent personalities. The details of this web has been sent to President, Priminsiter, governors, chief ministers, secretaries throughout India. The details have been send to several professorrs in throughout the world starting from Harvard to several indian universities.
Mere enthusiam is not enough. There are many who start with that. Our dreams and visions should be backed by dreat theories and idealologies. that is all about this web
Do you have any queries I love to answer
regards
Professor Keta Meera Sahebu
keta meera sahebu
URL
May 23, 2007
04:00 AM
Dear sir,
I have gone thorugh the intervies. It is nice. Many a times just dreams are not going to help. To day there are many poiticians who would love to eliminate corruption. There are many who like future should be good. Therefore if we are looking for a quantum jump, we want a great change in shortest possible time it must be backed by a great theory. Great idealogy and a great vision.
It is that vision and a goal and a path is put in my web
http://www.q-jump-india2015.com
to day this web is more than 1500 pages . In two years time it will grow to 6000 pages and addresses all these issues.
This web is being visited by many eminent personalities. The details of this web has been sent to President, Priminsiter, governors, chief ministers, secretaries throughout India. The details have been send to several professorrs in throughout the world starting from Harvard to several indian universities.
Mere enthusiam is not enough. There are many who start with that. Our dreams and visions should be backed by dreat theories and idealologies. that is all about this web
Do you have any queries I love to answer
regards
Professor Keta Meera Sahebu
keta meera sahebu
URL
May 23, 2007
04:28 AM
Dear Sir,
I have gone through the interview. It is nice and all the points were well brought out. . The People who started the Lok parithrana have to be complimented. They deserve all the praise .
Many a times just dreams are not going to help us in shaping the future of India. To day there are many politicians who would love to eliminate corruption. There are many who like future of India should be good. There are many who want to eliminate corruption. There are many who want to uplift the down trodden. Therefore if we are looking for a great future for the Indians in a shortest possible time it must be backed by a great theory, Great ideology and a great vision.
It is that vision and a goal and a path that is put in my web
http://www.q-jump-india2015.com
to day this web is more than 1500 pages. In two years time it will grow to 6000 pages and addresses all these issues logically, coherently and scientifically. This web has many new concepts, new ideas, and new theories.
This web is being visited by many eminent personalities. The details of this web have been sent to President, Priminsiter, Governors, Chief Ministers, and Secretaries throughout India. The details of this web have been send to several Professors throughout the world, starting from Harvard to several Indian universities.
To achieve great goals mere enthusiasm is not enough. There are many who start with that. Our dreams and visions should be backed by great theories and idealologies. That is all about this web. This web is there for all the political parties and all political leaders. All those who want to shape India must visit this web. All those who dream of a new world order must see the contents in this web.
Do you have any queries I love to answer
regards
Professor Keta Meera Sahebu
Kiran Namala
September 23, 2007
10:36 PM
It gives me immense please to know that, these people have started this party. Everyone has the thought to do somthing good, but thes guys have made the difference by opening the party, I wish them all success in their efforts and sincerely appreciate their noble thoughts to reform the politics in this country.
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